Saturday, June 11, 2011

Rajesh Ahiraj Has A Right To Free Speech


(Some parts of the chat has been edited out)

Rajesh Ahiraj

37 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
kaise hay

37 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
thik hain? aap kaise hain?

37 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
may bhi...

37 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
how are things?
all that arrest and stuff -- is that all behind you?

36 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
sab kuchh aap kesamne hay.....

35 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
what? i am not getting it
lafra abhi bhi chal raha hai ki all that is over?
i don't know

35 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
kalh suprem court me final peshi hay

34 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
i am in the dark
i just saw the picture of your being handcuffed and that is all i know'
is there some place online where you have posted all the details?
i want to know
right now i don't even know what the charges are

33 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
www madheshvani com

32 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
nahi yaar, that site is there, i am talking about the specific case
what are the charges? and what have you said in defense?

31 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
desh droh ka mukadma hay
17000 madheshi sena ka bigyapan chhapa tha

31 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
you need a webpage that has all the details of the case
give me all the details, i will make some noise about it

31 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
case final hone ke bad

30 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
17,000 madhesi sena in the Nepal Army?
what if you lose and they arrest you right away?
and you don't have the option to get your word out?

29 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
yes. madhesh ke surakshya ab pahida sena nahi karega...hum log khus aapni sena banaege...eshi ka addvertise tha

28 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
was it your own advertisement? or was it on behalf of some organization?

28 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
jtmm ka sainya varna sambandhi suchna....

28 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
oh okay

28 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
jantantrik terai mukti morcha

28 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
are you on skype? can you do a skype call?
ok
that perhaps was unwise
talking of our own police force in a madhesh state would be better
i have never been for either breaking up the country or for violence

27 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
sari media aur sarkar vi khilap me tha madheshi sena ki bigyapa pe

27 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
but you might still claim it was free speech on your part
they might disagree with it politically, but they can not deny you your free speech

26 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
e pahadiya ki desh hay boss

26 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
do you have Skype right now? what is your skype name?

26 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
yaha kanun vi samudae ke aadhar pe paribhashit hoti hay
ntc mo hay...98________

25 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
i don't have a card handy
well, what do you think might happen tomorrow?

24 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
may be jail......

24 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
you obviously have fought the case at lower levels and lost
how big is your Madheshvani team?
can they continue without you?
how long might the jail term be?

23 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
mujhe dekhna hay ki madheshi neta log ...morchh wale....madheshi intelectual....rest madheshvadi kya karta hay

23 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
who is your lawyer? and what angle is he coming from?
the free speech angle is the angle to come from
how long have you been free?

22 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
god knows
madheshvani band nahi hoga

22 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
in Canada the French legally talk about breaking up the country --- that is free speech
if you lose, how long is the jail term?
your lawyer must know that

21 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
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20 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
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20 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
may aapni phd jail ke ander hi pura karne ka soch raha hu

20 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
I understand the separatist sentiment. But I have never supported it. Neither political violence.
All we need to achieve we can do so non violently.

19 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
may jtmm ka kuch v nahi hu par 7 sal se madhesh pe kam karta hu.

19 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
Like the Congress got wiped out from the Terai in the last election, that was a big achievement.
i am aware of your work

19 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
madheshi morchha bale ki khamoshi kuchh to rang laegi na

18 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
and why would the JTMM want to harm any Madhesi leader? it is not like it is the Madhesi leaders who are going after you...
Look. You need to maintain some perspective.
You have to say all your are is a penman, not a gunman. You believe in equality for Madhesi. You have never been a member of any armed group. That what you have done is free speech.

17 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
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16 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
No, I don't know. And I don't believe that.
It is the Pahadi establishment that is going after you.
(edited out)

16 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
samay aane pe sab kuchh praman k sath web pe rakhunga....wait kijiega

15 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
what if you are no longer free the day after tomorrow? then what?

14 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
mera team capable hay work karne k lie....

14 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
ok

13 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
mujhe jyada saja nahi hoga. sambidhan me hi press freedom hay.

13 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
free speech angle is the angle to come from
i hope you got a good lawyer and he is doing his best to come from the free speech angle
he will say all you are and you have ever been is a journalist

12 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
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o neta nahi sirf byapari hay

11 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
I don't know the details. I can't say. One way or the other.
I am just worried about tomorrow
all the best

11 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
o madhesh ko marubhumi karke madheshi ko barbad kar rahe hay
kal jo kuchh vi hoga mere pakchh me hoga boss

10 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
the anger has to be directed towards people who have truly had the power and still do ---- (edited out)

10 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
jit gae to media man ke tarah kam karunga jail gae to bal thakre ke taral khud ko tyar karke niklunga

10 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
the energy should not be poured into madhesis fighting each other

9 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
hahaha

9 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
if you lose tomorrow, how long might the jail term be?
The Madhesh needs people like you. But we have to be clear about staying away from violence and separatism. We have to create a Madhesi police force inside a Madhesh state.
In a federal Nepal.
There are political solutions to our political problems.

8 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
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13 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
but an ad in your newspaper is free speech, that can not be punished

13 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
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12 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
i don't know any of these details that you are talking about ---- i just don't know --- i have been too far away for too long to know these things ---- i can't contest or support these claims
well ---- your best bet now is to make a strong case for free speech

12 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
abhi aap ko bura lag raha hoga... samay aae par sab kuchh bahar aajaega boss
dnt worry abt me

11 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
no, i am not feeling bad

11 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
may media man hu

11 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
i just don't know the details you seem to know

11 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
kalh court me bahut kuchh hoga .

10 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
You have been a trailblazer for Madhesi rights through journalism. That work has to continue.
Okay, good.

10 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
jit mera hi hoga...kyou ki may sirf fredom of speech ke pachh me kam kiya hu

10 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
That is the angle you have to come from.

10 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
may khud aapna case ladta hu

9 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
make the case

8 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
pahadiya paper me hum sare madeshi ko indian chhpne pe koe case nahi....mao ka sanya bhrna chhapne wala pahadiya media pe koi case nahi
with are vally me press meet karne wale pahadiya arms group pe koi case nahi aaur mujh pe case ?

7 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
in addition say you are personally opposed to political violence, and you are opposed to breaking up the country, although it has to be noted the french in canada talk of breaking up canada and that talk is still protected by free speech ---- but that you as a citizen are for equality for Madhesis, and federalism, and nonviolence, but everything you have ever published in your paper is protected by free speech, the martyrs of april 2006 paid for your right to free speech --- that you are surprised you are having to defend that

6 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
You are right. The Maoists still have an army. That should be illegal.
But be practical at this point and do your best to keep your freedom.

6 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
You can do more from outside than from inside.
I am going to blog about this.

5 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
boss...kalh ka faisala mera life ko aaham mod dega

5 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
If you want I can publish our entire chat at my blog. Or I can write up a blog post in your defense.
That is true.

4 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
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4 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
okay
I can do that.

3 minutes ago Rajesh Ahiraj
unke sath aapas me clear karlenge....
may aap ko kuchh aur infor mation patha hu

3 minutes ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
Okay, all the best, good luck, and come strong from the free speech angle. You can't be sent to jail for publishing things.
That is free speech.
Yeah, we should not pour our energies into infighting.

about a minute ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
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about a minute ago Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
We are Madhesis in Nepal, and also in America.

Sunday, May 29, 2011

Where To From Here?

A New Prime Minister

An all party government that commands at least two thirds majority in the parliament would be the best for giving the country a new constitution. When the three big parties and all the Madhesi parties get together, I think they reach that mark, although I will have to crunch the numbers.

I think it would be fair that such a government be led by a Maoist since they are the largest party in the parliament. Accepting a Maoist at the head of an all party government will also help build trust that is essential to taking the peace process to the next level.

That person I believe is Baburam Bhattarai. If the Maoists manage to secure a simple majority on their own after the next parliamentary elections, it will be entirely upto the Maoist party to decide as to who their prime ministerial candidate will be. But right now they don't have that simple majority. And so they have to be okay with letting Baburam Bhattarai be Prime Minister. He did an excellent job when he was Finance Minister. He has a clean image. His smarts are second to none. A Baburam Bhattarai as Prime Minister will give Nepal a head of state who will match the smarts of any head of state on the planet. I have my ideological differences with him, but I like the fact that he is not a dogmatic communist, but rather a thinking one. Communism is supposed to be science. You have to be willing to face facts. You have to be willing to change your thinking when new ground realities emerge. Whereas too many communists have this don't-confuse-me-with-the-facts attitude.

Army Integration

Allowing for a full debate in the parliament on the issue is the way to go. So far the issue of army integration has failed because the party leaders have tried to discuss it among themselves outside the parliament. Unless the parliament is given its due respect the army integration issue will continue to confound the leaders of the country.

A New Kind Of Democracy

Unless Nepal is turned into a new kind of democracy, one that is a multi-party democracy of state funded parties, truly a one person one vote democracy where the poorest of the poor have that same one vote as the richest people in the country, genuine peace is not possible. Parties like the Nepali Congress want to turn Nepal into a democracy like India, Britain and the United States and that is why the Maoists want to keep their army for as long as possible so they can dream of yet another revolution, armed if necessary. I don't blame them.

The kind of democracy I am talking about is a fusion of the two major ideologies of the past century. It would be a first in Nepal. Unless this political move is made, we will keep having problems with army integration.

A multi-party democracy of state funded parties means political parties in the country will have no other source of funding besides the state, and the state funds will be directly proportional to how many votes the parties earn in an election. That would be a step towards classlessness.
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