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NYC Nepali Are Madhesi, Powerless

I would like to be reinstated, but I can not see me participating in any active way unless the administrator makes the archives of this group public. It takes one simple click to do it. You retain the exclusive nature of the membership, and a private group can do that. But you allow anyone to watch the discussions from the visitors' gallery. Make it democratic that way. Down with the elitism.

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Nepal Democracy Google Group Does Not Believe In Free Speech (November 23, 2005)

Dear Paramendra Ji:

Congratulations for job done very well. I am proud of you.

--Ram

----- Original Message -----

From: Ram Sah

To: nepaldemocracy@googlegroups.com

Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 10:15 PM

Subject: Re: [ND] Re: New York Events on Terai (Madhesh) Issue in Nepal

Dear Anil and Anup Ji:

Right on the money --I could not with you any more. I would like to hear reasoning of those in whose view person(s) with strong views, say Paramendra, should not be included in our discussion. By the way, can some enlighten me the reason of removing Paramendra from ND forum.

Thanks,

Ram Sah

----- Original Message -----

From: apahari@comcast.net

To: nepaldemocracy@googlegroups.com

Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 6:44 PM

Subject: [ND] Re: New York Events on Terai (Madhesh) Issue in Nepal

Anil ji:

I agree fully with your well articulated views. If someone like Paramendra is a threat to loktantra in Nepal, then our loktantra will not go very far at all. Nepali loktantra should be able to take many Parmendras in stride before it is mature and stable.

To their credit the leaders in Nepal have, in fact, started to do just that, first by making it possible for the maoists to come overground, and now in dealing squarely with the Tarai issue. I belive in the sunshine rule....

even if it is rotten, airing it out in the sunshine will dissipate the smell. Besides, many of Parmendra's views are far from rotten.....

But even if some of his views are odious, letting him espouse them in public and having many people critique them will be the best method for him to rethink his positions.

Look forward to hearing the discussion... thanks fo rthe effort.

Anup

Dear Paramendra Ji:

Congratulations for job done very well. I am proud of you.
--Ram
----- Original Message -----
From: Ram Sah
To: nepaldemocracy@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [ND] Re: New York Events on Terai (Madhesh) Issue in Nepal

Dear Anil and Anup Ji:
Right on the money --I could not with you any more. I would like to hear reasoning of those in whose view person(s) with strong views, say Paramendra, should not be included in our discussion. By the way, can some enlighten me the reason of removing Paramendra from ND forum.

Thanks,
Ram Sah

----- Original Message -----
From: apahari@comcast.net
To: nepaldemocracy@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 6:44 PM
Subject: [ND] Re: New York Events on Terai (Madhesh) Issue in Nepal

Anil ji:

I agree fully with your well articulated views. If someone like Paramendra is a threat to loktantra in Nepal, then our loktantra will not go very far at all. Nepali loktantra should be able to take many Parmendras in stride before it is mature and stable.

To their credit the leaders in Nepal have, in fact, started to do just that, first by making it possible for the maoists to come overground, and now in dealing squarely with the Tarai issue. I belive in the sunshine rule....
even if it is rotten, airing it out in the sunshine will dissipate the smell. Besides, many of Parmendra's views are far from rotten.....
But even if some of his views are odious, letting him espouse them in public and having many people critique them will be the best method for him to rethink his positions.

Look forward to hearing the discussion... thanks fo rthe effort.

Anup


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ratan Jha"
To: "nepal democracy"
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 10:59 PM
Subject: [ND] Re: New York Events on Terai (Madhesh) Issue in Nepal


>
> Dear Anil ji, Anand ji and Friends in NY:
>
> I too appreciate your effort for organizing such a timely discussion
> event on Terai issue. I look forward to hearing the recorded
> proceedings of the event.
>
> I commend Ashok ji for his bold decision in encouraging diverse views
> - like that of Paramendra. I concur with Anup ji, Anil ji and Ram ji
> that we need to hear all sides in democracy; and each individual
> should have the right to express his/her views - no matter how bitter
> those views may be!
>
> Thanks,
> Ratan Jha
>

---- Original Message -----
From: Subodh
To: nepaldemocracy@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 12:01 AM
Subject: [ND] Re: New York Events on Terai (Madhesh) Issue in Nepal

Dear Friends,
I do not remember our rule on the removal. But we can assume that it is very democratic in nature and culture. If Parmendra has been removed from this forum, it's a blunder. And I urge to repeal please. I believe we call member's view before taking any stringent step unless some one has committed seriously visible crime.
Thanks,

Subodh Raj Pyakurel
Chairperson,
INSEC,G p o Box-2726, Kathmandu.
www.inseconline.org &
Forum-Asia, Bangkok.
www.forum-asia.org
Email: subodh.freenep@gmail.com

----- Original Message -----
From: Shyam D. Karki
To: nepaldemocracy@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 4:11 AM
Subject: [ND] Re: New York Events on Terai (Madhesh) Issue in Nepal

Dear Anilji,

I commend you for articulating your views about the need to practice what we preach about Loktantra. We need to do more on this and adopt the Loktantra culture. Like Jean Jaques Rousseau said in French " I do not agree with you but I will defend it until my death your right to say it".

As regards Parmendra, I remember meeting him first time in New York at the Workshop we (Taraji and NAPAC) had organized at the Columbia University on the Democracy struggle. I found him very dedicated and articulate young man. We chatted for a while. He had some strong views on some of the issues at the time. I recommended that he should attend the NAC board meeting in Nashville and present his views. He could not attend it for some logistic reasons. I suggested to him that he should write a brief synopsis and I would distribute it at the NAC meeting. He sent it to me and I distributed it to all the NARC attendees in Nashville as a part of my presentation on the NAPAC.

Again to reinforce your point, I did not agree with everything Pandora had to say. However, I strongly felt that he ( for that matter any one ) must be encouraged to participate at the community meetings and interact with each other. This gives an opportunity to all community members to learn from each other and be a better community.

It gives me a great satisfaction that many energetic and dedicated young men and women who at times felt that they were bypassed by the Nepali community mainstream (because of age, caste, language, social status, regional issues etc) are currently playing important leadership roles and I had done my share in ensuring that they are not sidelined.

We must nurture emerging dedicated and energetic youths to be actively engaged in the community affairs. Whether we agree or disagree, in the long run, all of us will learn a lot from each other and the community will be better off.

Again, Anilji, let me express my admiration for you for expressing it very candidly and frankly and commend you for your courageous stand.

Warm regards,

Shyam Karki,

----- Original Message -----
From: Sharun5@aol.com
To: nepaldemocracy@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 5:07 AM
Subject: [ND] Re: New York Events on Terai (Madhesh) Issue in Nepal

Anil-ji,

Good effort! Yes from Rousseau to all of us to US Supreme Court ( if it makes there) defended/will defend Parmendra's right to speech/expression. I hope no one is really saying Parmendra is a threat to loktantra!

Anil-ji has any one prepared a report/synopsis of the discussion!
Thank you for report!
Arun

----- Original Message -----
From: apahari@comcast.net
To: nepaldemocracy@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 6:02 AM
Subject: [ND] Re: New York Events on Terai (Madhesh) Issue in Nepal

Along the same vein, here is another story of intolerance in Nepal.

http://www.nepalnews.com/archive/2007/feb/feb11/news03.php

Many self-proclaimed propthets of loktantra will hesitate to defend RPPs freedom to meet and campaign with their message, or to denounce such maoist attacks on RPP as hurtful for loktantra.
Some journalists like Gunaraj Luintel of Katipur, however, did strongly condemn organized attacks on RPP in Pokhara by SPA and maoist students couple of months ago.

Just like in the case of Parmendra, if the message of RPP or any other group for that matter, is wrong and harmful for the nation, then I trust Nepalis to sense it, and to vote against it when the time comes. By attacking RPP meeting in Lamjumg, I suspect the maoists have simply managed to generate more sympathy (martyrdom) for the RPP.

Best,
Anup

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dr. Tara Niraula"
To:
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 6:47 AM
Subject: [ND] Re: New York Events on Terai (Madhesh) Issue in Nepal


>
> I am delighted to know that the program at New School went well and I look
> forward to listening the audio recording when Anil uploads.
>
> I am sorry I missed the event as I had a prior family commitment and was
> out
> of town. The principal organizer and I had discussed about my being
> away.
>
>
> I do believe that having opportunity to listen to those you may not even
> necessarily agree with is helpful and should not be ignored as long as we
> all remain more tolerant and be respectful of our differences. I myself
> may not always agree with Paramendra, but that does not mean that he or
> any
> one like him should not be heard. Interactions in disciplined
> environment
> can add lot to the discussions of genuine issues.
>
> With best regards,
>
> Tara Niraula

----- Original Message -----
From: "Poorna Adhikary"
To:
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 7:45 AM
Subject: [ND] Re: New York Events on Terai (Madhesh) Issue in Nepal


>
> Dear friends,
>
> I also think so. If we do not have capability to listen to the others'
> opinion, how can we qualify to work for lokatantra.
>
> Poorna
>

----- Original Message -----
From: Anil Shahi
To: nepaldemocracy@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 10:21 AM
Subject: [ND] Re: New York Events on Terai (Madhesh) Issue in Nepal

After overcoming some technical hurdles, we are finally pleased to provide you with the audio link of "Nepal in Transition: The Terai Question", held at The New School on Saturday, February 10th, 2007:

http://www.alliancenepal.org/Tarai%20New%20School.htm

Also, we'd like to take this opportunity to let you know that you can read "Samaya" (weekly Nepali magazine) online exclusively at Alliance's website, as well as "News Front", a new weekly newspaper edited by prominent journalist Yubaraj Ghimire. You will be able to find links to these news outlets on the Alliance's home page at:

www.alliancenepal.org

Finally, on a personal note, thank you all for your words of support with regards to the recent "Paramendra saga". For me, though, the issue is much more than just about Paramendra or any other individual -- I deemed it necessary to raise the issue because, as I saw it, a fundamental democratic principle was being challenged/threatened by the very people who claim to espouse to democratic values.

Tara dai, I am sure there were many who could not make it to the event due to various other commitments, which is perfectly understandable. What I am dismayed with, however, is the fact that few people actually took time to launch a campaign to remove Paramendra from the list of panelists in the days prior to the event. I am glad that they failed, and I hope we all will take this as an important lesson on democracy 101.

Anil.

----- Original Message -----
From: Shyam D. Karki
To: nepaldemocracy@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 6:39 AM
Subject: [ND] Re: Interaction Program in NE OHIO

Dear Suchetaji,
My commendation for organizing a very timely Interaction program. I will miss it by a week,
I am coming to Cleveland on Febraury 23. I am also working on organizing a similar program in Baltimore and Washington.

Warm regards, '
Shyam Karki
Sucheta Pyakuryal wrote:

PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD AROUND:

NAOO and NSA (UAkron) Presents an Interaction Program on:
Ethnic Minorities and Politics of Exclusion in Democratic Nepal
at:
The University Of Akron
College of Arts and Science Building
Buchtel Commons, Akron, OH
Saturday, February 17th 2007
2 P.M. – 5 P.M.
Panelists are:
· Dr. Pramod Kantha, Assistant Professor, Dept. of Political Science; Wright State University, Dayton OH.
· Dr. Mahendra Lawoti, Assistant Professor, Department of Political Science; Western Michigan University. Kalamazoo, MI.
· Mr. Mukesh Singh, Lawyer, Columbus, OH.
· Dr. Janardan Subedi, Professor of Sociology; Miami University, OH.
· Dr. Mark Tausig, Professor of Sociology & Associate Dean of the Graduate School; University of Akron, OH.
REFRESHMENTS : 1:30-2:00 p.m.

Taking this to http://www.petitiononline.com/petition.html
Feb 9, 2007 4:17 PM

To: The Eight Party Alliance In Nepal

We the undersigned concerned Nepalis and friends of Nepal in New York City and beyond urge you to expedite the political solution to the Madhesi Movement that has caused so much chaos for weeks in Nepal for lack of attempts at sound, expedited political resolutions. Deciding to have half of all constituencies in the Terai is a good start.

This Maghe Kranti has lasted longer than the April Revolution. This Maghe Kranti has produced more martyrs than the April Revolution. Krishna Sitaula has to go on moral grounds. That would be the legitimate step two of the political solution.

All the thorniest issues will be settled through the constituent assembly. But elections to that constituent assembly have to be free, fair and representative.

We hope the Dalit, Madhesi, Janajati and Mahila's composition in the assembly ends up proportionate to their composition in the national population. We have to come up with a mechanism to ensure that. We should seriously look into reserving one third of all constituencies for women. There would still be elections in those constituencies, but all candidates will have to be women. And two thirds of those should be for the Dalit, Madhesi and Janajati women. And we propose additional reserved constituencies for the Dalit, Madhesi and Janajati.

We can not emphasize enough the need for a free, fair and representative election to a constituent assembly. Such an assembly will make sure all the big issues will be settled through debate, dialogue and voting as opposed to street agitations, and Nepal Bands and chukka jams.

We believe we played an important role in the April Revolution. We hope to continue to play an important role upto and during the constituent assembly by staying an active part of the debate and discussions.

The Chinese diaspora has played a central role in China's magical economic story of the past few decades. Ultimately we Nepalis in New York City, the capital city of the world, the Kathmandu of the world, the city that never sleeps, hope to play a central role in rallying the Nepali diaspora for an economic revolution in Nepal lasting decades. A sound constitution will be the framework that will make that possible.

If we are all for democracy, and social justice, and we want the best by the Nepali people, it should not be hard to find common ground.

We urge you to find a quick and fair resolution to the Madhesi Movement. What is best by the Madhesi has to best by Nepal. What is best by Nepal has to be best by its Prime Minister, its eight parties in power.

And while you are at it, please take a look at this:
http://demrepubnepal.blogspot.com/2007/02/proposed-constitution.html

Paramendra Bhagat
President, Hamro Nepal
Convenor, Coordination Committee, Nepali Organizations In New York City

Anil Shahi
Vice President, Hamro Nepal
Vice President, Alliance For Democracy And Human Rights In Nepal

Sanjaya Parajuli
President, Alliance For Democracy And Human Rights In Nepal

Somnath Ghimire
President, Nepal Students' Union, US Canada Chapter

NYC Nepali Are Madhesi, Powerless

The ethnic and gender composition of the Nepalis in NYC gives me a very good picture of the social disparities in Nepal. I know of two Dalits. There might be a few more. There are less than 30 Madhesis. Yesterday in my speech at The New School I said less than 0.1% of the Nepalis in NYC are Madhesi. I think it is more like 0.01%. There are somewhere between 30,000 and 40,000 Nepalis in NYC, and less than 30 of them are Madhesi. (Some Madhesis have been making jealousy comments that that number is more like 5,000 ever since I got myself elected Convenor, Coordination Committee, Nepali Organizations In New York City. It has been noted Barack Obama is not awfully popular among the blacks. The black population is yet to come around to someone with a cross appeal.) On the other hand, Tara Bahun has gone on record to tell me that my being Convenor does not mean I get to convene the meeting in May when I have video footage to prove to the contrary.

The New School Event: Madhesi Question: Photos 2
The New School Event: Madhesi Question: Photos
The New School Event: My Speech To Be Delivered

I find it unbelievable that there are people who actually organized a meeting that concluded by suggesting if I am on the panel of The New School event, they are going to boycott it, which they did. My first instinct is to say, mai ka laal hai to samne aye. Who were at that meeting? I would like to know. Thos idiots do not seem to realize I was not a "guest" at the event. The event was a joint brainchild of Ashok Gurung and me. We together decided on the panelists. The names were obvious. I was not a guest, I was a coorganizer, if you will.

I have been trying to suggest we Nepalis should try to earn our voting rights in the city elections. And work starts at home. We have to become mass based in terms of organization. Our organizations have to become transparent and democratic.

Voting Rights For Immigrants In New York City

The first task it to establish the goal. Right now the right to vote is not even a goal among the Nepalis in the city. That is a shame. People who don't know that they don't know.

Then we have to ask ourselves, what would be the best way to organize the Nepalis in the city. Right now there are 30,000 t0 40,000 Nepalis in the city. Noone knows for sure how many. I think less than 1,000 of them are members of one or the other organization, 2,000 tops.

And there is no umbrella organization. We have a coordination committee, and that's about it. The member organizations are fiercely opposed to setting up a proper umbrella organization: the symptom of a powerless group, the enormous reluctance to claim the identity that seems to drag you down. (Typhoid And Typhoid Victims) When I talk about voting rights, many prominent leaders have said, that is for Adhikaar to work on. Adhikaar is great, it is the most active Nepali organization in the city. But something like voting right has to be a community thing. The entire community has to get organized, if it is to be achived.

So how do you organize the Nepalis in the city? The vast majority of them work below minimum wage jobs seven days a week, many of them 10-15 hours a day. How do you organize them?

The style so far has been that we will do events, and they will come. If we will build it, they will come. And so no matter which Nepali event you go to, you meet the same 200 or so people. The New School event was different. The usual faces were all absent. It was a whole bunch of new faces.

That has been a mistake. We have to go where they are. I think most Nepalis party at least once a month, if not more often. Many party weekly. So we think of the house party as the building block of our organizational effort. And we connect them all through the internet. Web 2.0.

ANONYC: Proposed Constitution

The Political Process In Nepal

I have been very inspired by the New School event yesterday. But I have also been toying around with a few options. I am reminded how one evening Homraj Acharya from DC, and Sanjaya Parajuli and I got together at Sanjaya's place - all members of Hamro Nepal - and we talked for hours. At the end of it all, I wish we had it all recorded in audio.

I have been talking to Anil Shahi and Sanjaya Parajuli. Why not form a group of 10 people and meet at Sanjaya's place every few weeks for a few hours and put it all out in audio on the web? Better to vent it out at this end than to risk street agitation or worse in Nepal. We need a ton of debate and discussions to make the best of the constituent assembly process.

Tek Gurung's Community Center Idea

The last person to have tried this was Chandra Prakash Sharma. What makes Tek Gurung's effort one better is that he is starting out with a survey of 5,000 Nepalis. He is going to get 5,000 Nepalis to commit to chip is $5 per month before he will take any step. I hope we can keep the process transparent all the way, and I hope we can take a business approach to it. How about starting with just 1,000? $5000 per month is enough money to get started. On the other hand, it should not end up a community center where nothing happens from Monday to Friday. The center should end up being self-sustaining. It should grow to make business sense. No?

Community Center Idea: A Few Options
Nepali Community Center

Convention

Right now I have put it out as my personal business project. But I am open to making it as a business project of the ANONYC. The team that will implement it will still get a percentage of the profits. But the event will belong to the ANONYC.

Nepali Convention 2008, NYC

My ANONYC proposal breaks us away from the rest of the Nepali diaspora. But that break is temporary. As soon as they adopt democracy, and transparency, we join them. At that point our convention becomes a regional convention. But until then, we part ways.

ANONYC: Proposed Constitution

The Matrix

The Matrix
Facebook: The Matrix Reloaded

You have to think of The Matrix as an invention. As long as you build The Matrix, it does not matter if you have voting rights or not, it does not matter if you want to work on the Madhesi and Janajati issues or the larger Nepal issues. It does not matter that you do not stick just to the Nepalis. If we Nepalis can take the lead on building The Matrix, we become the nucleus of the Obama phenomenon. We grab our non-white identity with gusto.


>From: "Anil Shahi" <anil_shahi_et@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: nepaldemocracy@googlegroups.com
>To: nepaldemocracy@googlegroups.com
>Subject: [ND] Re: New York Events on Terai (Madhesh) Issue in Nepal
>Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 21:05:33 -0500
>
>
>Dear all,
>
>The discussion event (on Madhesh isuue) at The New School today went very
>well. The Q & A session was lengthy, lively and vibrant. I will be
>uploading
>the audio recording of the entire program later when I have more time, and
>will surely provide the links to you.
>
>It was bitterly disppointing that some of the prominent members of the
>Nepali community in NY decided to boycott the event. The issue: Paramendra
>Bhagat as one of the panelists. As a matter of fact, there had been a
>rigorous campaign by them to remove Paramendra from the list of panelists
>in
>the last few days. I am glad that Ashok dai still decided to keep him on
>the
>panel, and I commend him for the bravery.
>
>I too am not a fan of Paramendra's style, and I too vigorously disagree
>with
>him on many of the radical views that he represents. But to deny him his
>RIGHT to hold those views and style is fundamentally wrong and
>undemocratic.
>It is amusing to me that the very people who profess to rally for democracy
>in Nepal would so easily astray from the very basic and fundamental
>principle of democracy when it comes to those who disagree with them,
>either
>in substance, or in style.
>
>Rather, it made a DEMOCRATIC sense to have invited him to speak, and to
>have
>had the opportunity to challenge him with questions on his stance. We are
>mainstreaming the Maoists by engaging with them, and so can we mainstream
>Paramendra by engaging with him.
>
>Loktaantrik bhanera afulaai chinaaune haru le loktaantrik naaraa layera
>mattra Nepal loktaantrik bandaina -- loktaantrik sidhaanta haruma pani
>purna
>biswaas garna sakna paryo, loktaantrik maadhyam ma aastha rakhna sakna
>paryo. If one wants to preach democracy, one should practice it as well.
>
>Until and unless we make individual efforts to strenthen true forms of
>democracy by letting go of feudalistic attributes within ourselves, I am
>afraid, our efforts to make democracy prosper in Nepal would go in vain.
>
>I am not defending Paramendra or his views and his style by writing this.
>But, by God, I shall defend his (and of those of his likes) RIGHT to be
>himself till death.
>
>By the way, Paramendra did very well today -- he was sensible, articulate,
>and powerful with his presentation.
>
>Anil.


From: Tek Gurung

Dear friends,

As we all are aware, population of Nepalese is growing rapidly here in New York. Approximately, 20000-30000 Nepalese and Nepali minded people live in New York metro area right now . In coming 5 years, number of Nepalese will be twice of what it is now. Nepal is very rich in culture and heritage which play significant roles in our lives, which is very much crucial for us to be able to preserve. I have met and seen some Nepali friends who have strong desires to build Nepali community and have tried to do so. Unfortunately, most of them were unsuccessful. After much thought, I have decided to circulate this survey within the community. My goal is to try to reach most of Nepalese and Nepali minded people and evaluate whether a community center is something that interests majority of us or not.
For example, If 5000 people feels that we need our center to be established, then we can initiate the project and it will only be possible if lets say 5000 people are willing to give $5 every month for this cause, by which we will be able to collect $25,000, which is a great amount. We can then, open an office, hire employees and work from there systematically.

Therefore, I ask for your help today in filling out this survey. Your opinion is valuable in making this very important decision. I thank-you for your time.


Sincerely,


Tek B.Gurung

WE, VERY MUCH WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU COULD GIVE YOUR INFORMATION WHICH WILL BE ONLY USED FOR OUR SURVEY PURPOSE.
THANK-YOU.



YOUR FULL NAME:

HOME/MAILING ADDRESS:

Do you think we, Nepalese need a community center of our own in New York City ?

I think we need do not need it.

If we need it, please choose a name suitable for the center.

Nepali Center Nepali Mandir

Nepal Ghar Nepali Community Center

Other suggestion

How can we fund raise for this purpose?

Monthly charge each person

Hold concerts & other cultural programs

Other suggestion

Monthly, I will donate/give $5 $10 $20

other amount.

How should we conduct board meeting?

Inviting all Nepalese to vote

Inviting only the members of our organization ( whoever think we need it and willing to give monthly minium $5 is become member)

Other suggestion

Where should our community center be located?

Manhattan Queens Brooklyn Other suggestion

What are the facilities should it contain?

Auditorium Hall Meeting Room

Hindu Temple Gumba

Church Funeral Home

Office rentals for Nepali organizations

Other Suggestion

Do we, Nepalese, need our own Nepal Parade Day?

Yes No (If yes, please choose a suitable date)

Budha Jayanti, which falls on sun, may 06 every year. All of us in this world need peace, which could be a perfect day to hold our parade.

The date in which Nepal and America established relationship, Wed, April 28 which is good, since we are in this country building ourselves.

Nepal’s April revolution, sat, April 28, which in a way is a independent day us, nepalese.

other suggestion

HOME/CELL #:

ACTIVE E-MAIL ADDRESS:

YOUR PROFESSION:

DRAFT SURVEY