please remove my email address from your mailing list.
krishnaDear All
Please find attached press release from Janakpur. this has been decided and released by the people of Janakpur from different walks of life. Please circulate to the concern people and organizations.
Thanks
--
Er.Satya Narayan Shah
Janakpurdam-4
Cell:- +977 98510 04366
Phone: +977 1 4465729/2030068
Email: er.snshah@gmail.com; snshah@wlink.com.np
The Madhesi Community in Nepal has seen peacefully agitating since last 19 days against the long stand of discrimination and inequality. However, the state and media is trying its best of project this liberation struggle as communal violence by their deeds of total ignorance and apathy. Despite all the state insensitiveness, the agitating, Madhesi people are still maintaining peaceful means during their mass protest and demonstration. This fact has been established by the fact that all the dead (Total 19) and the injured are only madhesi and all they have been killed and tortured by state police or other state appointed communal elements.
Seeing the barbarous acts, people of Janakpur from different walks of life have apealed to all the concerned people and organisation to drw attention and do the needful. Please find the attached document.
On 8/6/06, Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
Madhesi Caucus In Interim Parliament Needed
http://demrepubnepal.blogspot.com/2006/08/madhesi-caucus-in-interim-parliament.html
There are two broad areas we need work in: message and organization.
The message has to be a simple five or 10 point program that all or
most Madhesi organizations can agree on. It would be something akin to
a Madhesi Manifesto.
On the organization front, I feel an urgent need for two things: a
Madhesi Caucus in the parliament, and a Madhesi umbrella organization.
http://www.paramendra.com
--
Er.Satya Narayan Shah
Janakpurdam-4
Cell:- +977 98510 04366
Phone: +977 1 4465729/2030068
Email: er.snshah@gmail.com; snshah@wlink.com.np
Dear All,
I request you all to put pressure and convince both the government and the
Madheshi movement group to immediately start dialogue for peaceful
resolution. We do not want to loose the hard earned democracy in Nepal.
The attached file describes the major issues and the framework for peaceful
resolution. It is being widely circulated both in Nepal and abroad
including all the international agencies.
Best regards,
Shree
Dr. Shree Govind ShahI request you all to put pressure and convince both the government and the
Madheshi movement group to immediately start dialogue for peaceful
resolution. We do not want to loose the hard earned democracy in Nepal.
The attached file describes the major issues and the framework for peaceful
resolution. It is being widely circulated both in Nepal and abroad
including all the international agencies.
Best regards,
Shree
Chairperson
Ad hoc Committee, Federation of Madheshi Community Nepal
G.P.O.Box 8975, EPC # 1830
Kathmandu, Nepal
Phone/Fax: ++ 977-1-5526 903
Email: sgs@erma.wlink.com.np
Situla must go now.Your Stake? Also if you have sujata's number.
Dear All:
The paper by Dr. Govind Shah is good one. In addition to circulating these kind of information, we should also post these at forum where many other people can see ( I, e., ND forum, ANTA website, etc..). Most if not all of you are member of ND forum. Please feel free to post this kind of paper article on the forum. Also ask Ratan to post these on ANTA web site.
I just saw article by Bindu on Nepal news. http://www.nepalnews.com/archive/2007/others/guestcolumn/feb/guest_columns_03.php
These can be also posted at forum and web site where majority people can see and ponder, discuss and exchange ideas. It is equally important that all of us respond to the issues/ideas brought forward on these forums. I encourage all of you to use the forum and exchange ideas. At this time, most of Madheshi are on board in regards to the real issues of this Terai Movement. The challenge is to take our message to the pahades and other people. We should also solicit help from Paramendar ( a tireless worker and brilliant mind) in posting some of the information on his blog sites. It’s good that we share information among ourselves. Let’s coordinate and reach out to the as many people we can. Education of many Pahadis people is needed to make them really understand what is the underlying problem behind the Terai Movement.
Equally important is that we also need to educate and inform Madheshi about how we can use democracy to our advantage. There is no reason to vote for pahade candidate from Madheshi constituency. We have culture of in-fighting, divide and rule, submission and not standing up for our just right. If we do not change our mentality, then we will be susceptible for future domination and discrimination. Following is the last two paragraph of Dr, Sukhdeo Jees article on “Terai’s Fate- Looking Within”. Personally, these sums of my main concern and worry! We must also “look within” , before looking too much “outside”. We should make effort to have our fellow Madheshi “look within” as we move towards new, unchartered territory! It is always easy to look outside then looking within. Real change can not be made without looking within and making core change within our selves also.
“Such an outcome is not surprising, for the reason that Terai population cannot unite, which can help them escape servitude and the sub-class status that has been their lot for generations. Even if one looks at the current protests for Terai’s rights in a sympathetic manner--and wishes the protests to succeed--it is unlikely that the old habits would change and gains from this movement would be long-lasting.
This is so because a race or an ethnic group used to servitude and domination can hardly be counted on to safeguard their rights and freedoms—however painfully acquired. My guess would be that, after the initial storms have passed, most Teraians would align themselves with pahadias to undermine each other, and invite the outsiders to fill the gap. Otherwise, how was it possible that a pahadia candidate would win in a free and fair election in places over 90 percent populated by ethnic Teraians?”
Sincerely,
Lalit Jha
ANTA
I read with interest the document by Dr. Shree Govind Shah. Please take a look at this and suggest.
I think Dr. Shah did a great job. We should also ensure certain percentage of representation from minority in all the government and private machinary.
Regards,
Binay Shah
STOP Abductions,
STOP Extortions.
STOP Killings,
To get Terai problems resolved put pressure on government peacefully.
Indigenous Peoples [IPs] are also offering their solidarity with you guys - the Terai peoples - in that your demands are genuine and in that you do it peacefully !!!
http://www.kantipuronline.com/kolnews.php?&nid=99588
Bindu's Article on Nepalnews
http://www.nepalnews.com/archive/2007/others/guestcolumn/feb/guest_columns_03.php
Paramendra;
Excellent effort - Sorry I won't be able to make it but send us the resolution. Let peace be in the land of Shiva, Buddha, Sita and King Janak.
Dear All:
Please see email below. Specially read the link. Also see the email written by Rakesh and the response from the author of the article. In my opinion, we should send response to educate and inform her. Although I like to see different point of view, we should also take this opportunity to provide relevant information.
Ratan: Can you also invite Rakesh to ND forum? Also, please advise on the best way to put forward Terain point of view to Ms. Koirala’s article.
Rakesh: I would like to thank you for responding and being active. We have been very successful in putting forward Madhesi’s point of view in recent terrain movement to the intellectual in US. We plan on keep doing our part. Please visit the ND forum on Google sites (once you are invited). Feel free to write to anyone of us or call.
Sincerely!
Lalit Jha
ANTA
From: Rakesh Mishra [mailto:rakeshmishra888@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 10:27 PM
To:
Subject:
http://www.nepalnews.com/archive/2007/others/guestcolumn/feb/guest_columns_02.php
Dear Ms. Koirala
I am writing this mail in response to you article published on Nepal news. I, as a madhesi can not keep silent to your racially charged and mentally bankrupt propositions. I am also sending this mail to a group of my freinds so that they can have some idea of an "Enlightened " vision of a nepali educated(probably) and working in a free American society.
To start with, you try to justify the necessity of king citing example of Afganistan and Iran . Have you ever heard about brutality of Shah Pehlawi and aristocracy of Zaheer Shah. You still live in medieval age where brutal force was used to create and sustain nations. There are many examples like France ....and at least 50 other countries where monarchy was thrown out after world war two and those countries have fared well. This is not a question of who did what? Who is doing what...is more important in deciding the fate of any political and historical institution. I have no grudge against prithivi N Shah and I don't support vandalising his statue but I am equally opposed to the notion that a person, how much noble or whatever, can create a nation and sustain it. He was just a creation of time and space...nothing more than that ...nothing less than that.
You have spitted out all your venom against madhesi community. You are opposing Prachanda for labelling Upendra yadav, a thug and criminal but just to express your superficial anger at maoists, but in turn in your article, you are supporting the same tendency, send armed forces to terai....and crush this movement....Ms. Koirala , be sure its a solution which will be a "bomb" on terirtorial integrity(?) of Nepal. How come, you are asking Madhesis to ask about the reason of our exclusion from Army to Britsh and Indian governments? Do you think policies of Nepal government is guided by policies of Indian and Britsh governments? Tell the truth...what you think.
I will request all to whom this message is sent to respond.....and silence a hawks like you.......who are responsible for rise of separatist ideology in Madhesh. Just click reply to all button.....if u want or keep silent, and wait. If you don't like this mail in you mail box, let me know. I will never send them to your address.
Rakesh Mishra
State College
PA, USA
Response from the writer
Dear Mr. Mishra,
Thanks for your letter. I am always happy to receive them. However, your arguments and charges against me are baseless. If you read my article, it has nothing to do against the madhesi community. Madhesis are the sons of the soil, how can I go against those that till the fertile land of the terai and contribute to the national economy? I have only gone against these so-called JTMM and similar forums who are created by the Indians to actually merge Nepal into the INdian union just like Sikkim .
It is nothing but the ploy of Delhi to show to the world that nothing has worked right in Nepal and then there is no other alternate but to annex Nepal like Sikkim .
The monarchy I think, is precisely very importnant for the sustainance of this country. You correctly took the examples of Iran and Afghanistan . Shah of Iran and the Zahir of Afgahnistan could have been brutal but not as brutal as the subsequent regimes that came to rule Iran and Afghainstan in the post-monarchy period. So, let's not start making Nepal another Iran and invite untoward disaster and chaos.
best of luck
Preeti K.
from some madheshi young professionals from ktm
bhaiji, namaste
I am rakesh ranjan sah from janakpurdham , i am a pharmacist working in a company here in kathmandu.
as it is known to u abt the condition of nepal specially the madhesh , in this condition non of madheshi can stay quite so here we with help of some young professionals from madhesh including doctors , engineers,lawyers , teachers , busineesmans are going to form a group here , regarding this we had a meeting here yesterday n we had decided to bring all madheshi parties , groups , forums under one umbrella , to make pressure on all parties , and the main aim to be a communication point for all groups so we r collecting all informations specially personnel informations including mobile no. n email address n wht ever information will come we will generate to all.
so bhaiji we want tht u also send all information through us n we will generate these here to all parties n forums i am also a regular reader of ur comments on dfn blog n i really like these.
n bhaiji u know the condition of nepalese press n there way of thinking abt madhesh so we want u to generate real condition of madhesh worldwide, regarding this we have many real pictures of the movement going on in madhesh n we want to send these pictures to u so how to send n on which address to send plz inform me .
we are going to make this group within this week so plz send ur valuable information regarding this tht how it could be effective n bhaji we are also going to raise the funds for injuired n from some of us will personnally go to madhesh and distribute this to the families of injured
Expecting ur kind cooperation
JAY MADHESH JAY MADHESHI
Rakesh. This is wonderful.
We need to get organized worldwide.
Do your Ktm thing but also launch a Kathmandu chapter of http://madhesiinternational.blogspot.com/
Send a ton of digital photos of the Madhesi Movement. You can email to me at this address. Better would be to upload directly at Flickr http://www.flickr.com
Tag: Madhesi
Stay in touch.
For your directory, I am Paramendra Bhagat at myspace.com/paramendra That is enough contact info
I am so glad you wrote.
Dear Paramendra,
Good pieces. I don't know if you've read Moriarty's ("Foreign Hand") column in the latest Nepal News, but it's quite a sea change. He now recognizes the incompetence of the parties and the false nature of the allegations of royalists fomenting the unrest. I think even he might be open to a new party, as long as it is non-communist and friendly towards the US. Something to think aobut strategically.
FUCK OFF And stop emaling your crap!!
narayan subedi
I never subscribed to your bull shit crap.
Stay out of my business.
The ex- minister and Magar association central president Gore Bahadur Khapangi Magar is not the only Magar who could solely represent the Magars of Nepal. Everybody knows it.
We are not racist. We are against the so-called upper caste 'casteism or racism' so we are not chauvinist either. The history of Magar ancestors is distorted which western eyes can't see clearly most often. We don't care.
I have shared your message to all in the list.
Thanks,
Hill Man
mlecomte@vjf.cnrs.fr wrote:
What I was quoting in this extract was the answer of Gore Bahadur
Khapangi, and his presentation by the journalist was just a regrettable
detail that I underlined by adding a sic;
However I wonder why you are so aggressive...Be careful not to fall into
racism (first message) and chauvinism (2nd message), which does not make
honour to your illustrious ancestors to my eyes, and you can forward this
to all your friends if you are couragous enough. Marie Lecomte
Hillman 2C
Hello,
You missed the point discussed originally in the email. Your paper is on-line available . I know you did not write so but copied what he wrote.
Without calculating or weighing at all you copied what he wrote. That is unacademic or wrong. You gave the message to the western world also that Magars or indigenous peoples are 'lower caste' peoples or all Maoists. That is outrageous.
Your writing is an example that you have very little knowledge about the glorious history of Magars. Would you be willing to share your message to all in the list please ?
Hillman
----- Original Message ----
From: Marie Lecomte-Tilouine
To: hillman2c@yahoo.com
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2007 10:50:14 AM
Subject:
Dear "hillman", as your message seems to refer to my paper, which
apparently you have not read, I am sending you this short message to
assure you that nowhere I wrote what you say, and that the sentence
which was sent to you is a quotation from a certain Mr Pradhan (who
is not a Westerner I guess).
Marie lecomte
Hillman 2C
Was Gore B. Khapangi a Maoist ? Strange, I don't believe in. Do the western think all the Magars Maoists ?
Rubbish !
Hillman 2C
would you please remove this email account from DFN BLOG. I already have another email in this blog and I am getting multiple times.
Thanks for your help.
Date: February 1, 2007
Mr Ban Ki-moon
United Nations Secretary General
Your Excellency
Re: Nepal Government Sponsored Violence against Madheshis in Nepal
Over ten million Madheshi people of Southern Nepal thank United Nations for investigation and recognition of longstanding discrimination and oppression done by Nepal Government. In January 2007, the meeting of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights (UNHCHR) Ms Louise Arbour with Nepal ’s Prime Minister Girija Prasad Koirala, to address longstanding discrimination and social exclusion of Madheshis is significant.
However, since last week of January 07, Nepalese police/army is attacking on peaceful colonized Madheshis-demonstrators who are raising voice for their human rights. That has brought over fifteen deaths and several hundred injured. Killing of innocent Madheshis people by Nepalese police/army has created a terrified situation, as well as, has converted a holy peaceful Madhesh into a battlefield. It has created a scene of insecurity, as well as, rebellion attitude among Madheshi- youths that is quite natural, but it is detrimental to the peace process in Nepal . Continuation of prejudice and injustice; and use of arms by the Nepal- government will create crisis in the country. In lack of urgent and effective measures, there is no doubt; Nepal will be included in near future, into category of Somalia and Sri Lanka .
To prevent the crisis in Nepal , for Human Rights, Justice and establishment of Peace following are suggested measures:
1. Immediate stoppage of use of arms against peaceful Madheshis-human rights- demonstrators/protesters.
2. Formation of Madhesh Peace Force (Madhesh Shanti Sainik).
3. Formation of Madhesh Peace Police (Madhesh Shanti Sipahi).
Looking forward for assistance of United Nations to bring to end government sponsored violence and discrimination against Madheshis in Nepal .
Thanking you for your continued support.
Sincerely yours
Dr Bindeshwar Prasad Yadav
(Nepal citizen)
bpyadav66@yahoo.com,
United Nations Volunteer
Trinidad and Tobago
CC: urgent-action@ohchr.org,
tb-petitions.hchr@unog.ch
registry.np@undp.org
registry@undp.org.tt
claudio.providas@undp.org.tt
Please see what is happening in Janakpur due to terai
unrest.
Binod shah
Today in Janakpur
- Trade unions jointly chanted slogans against all kinds of discrimination and demanded constituencies based on equal and average population.
- Joint Youth rally of all youth clubs in Janakpur supporting demands of recent Madheshi movement.
- People of Tulsiyahi in a big Procession expressed solidarity with recent Madheshi movement.
- People of kurtha chanted slogans against Girija and Prachanda.
- People of Bahuharwa did the same in a separate procession.
- People of loharpatti, in 18 tractors chanted slogans in favour of demands of Madheshi movement.
- Workers of janakpur Cigarette Factory chanted slogans against discrimination and demanding equality for Madheshis. They also locked Chief District adminstration office of Dhanusha.
- People of Rajaul at 7:00 Pm chanted slogans against Girija in a torch rally.
Dear Pramendra Jee,
When I came across a few of your writings some months ago, I perceived you as nice intellectual person and felt proud of you as a Nepalese. But my appreciative impression could not last for long and now I came to know that you are playing a dirty role of a conspirator aggravating communal disputes between Madheshi and Pahadi brothers. You are ownselves economically and professionally secured person, but trying to tempt other Nepalese Madheshi brothers to be deviated from their own progress inspiring them in communal disputes. Many people who had great respect on you before, have started condemning you. You are losing your image, your hostile dream and Satanic betrayal to Nepal and Nepalese society will always fail. But nobody can intervene your soul if it is already committed to the hell.
Nityananda Khanal
An anti-racial person who has hundreds of Madheshi friends
Good to see that Nepali Times has recognized your effort for the cause.
Good Job.
Let us all work for a better tomorrow.
Please publish as and if you deem fit.
Sincerely,
Pramod Dhakal
Canada Forum for Nepal
(www.cffn.ca info@cffn.ca)
Ottawa, Canada
In Search of Wisdom
Dr Pramod Dhakal
Any nation runs into a great danger when its rulers go blind. Being preoccupied with the fear of losing his own power, a blind ruler cannot see the tears of the people. When people cannot find any compassion in their ruler, they go in search of another ruler. So what happened in Mahabharata and is happening in Nepal!
Vision for a benevolent rule is not read from books nor is handed down by great advisors. They come from simple process of separating universal truth from all the plethora of problems and scenarios that float around us and then extracting them to solve a problem at hand. But, the hunger for power and position has blinded the “great rulers” of Nepal for rather long.
A blind obsession for power was understood in Gyanendra because he had long conveyed a message that his forefather had “earned” an entitlement to rule over Nepal and he did not need to “re-earn” it for he was descended through the wives of a ruler in a specific sequence. However, what descends from the intellect of other “leaders” - the most noteworthy being that from the Prime Minisiter Girija – does not bode a good omen for the peaceful future of Nepal. Although lifelong public figures like him deserve some respect, they repeatedly behave as if they have some kind of permanent blockage in the link between their knowledge and wisdom. Every time people give them some benefit of doubt and things start going normal, they quickly find some way to deliver one disappointment or the other. Within a few months of being installed in power by a popular movement fomented due to the excesses of monarchy, PM Girija stood to deny Nepalese people to decide whether they wanted a monarchy or republic through referendum. At a time when his mouth was saying that he fought for people and democracy for 60 years, his wisdom was dictating him to stand for a most uncompassionate king and his son loathed by the people. In doing so, these people are inferring that, except those in the palace, no other Nepalese mother is incapable of giving birth to a good ruler.
Any person who has not yet learnt to respect the womb of his mother has not yet earned anything worthy to be a ruler of a country. Devaluation of her as an inferior to the palace-mothers is an indicator that the person is still foolish, blind and incapable to emanate love and compassion to unite his people. Instead, when a leader believes or stands for superior or inferior wombs, he is in confrontation with those who believe that the wombs of all mothers are pure. And our leaders’ manifest their lack of this sense again and again.
If our leaders were to turn a few pages in history, they would find that no one can know which mother gives birth to a great leader. It is written that great leaders were often born of ordinary mothers, and those also of “inferior” clan or race; take examples from Krishna, Jesus, Genghis Khan, Gandhi or Mandela. Instead of dismantling all obstacles in raising great sons and daughters of a nation and letting them emerge out of centuries old dust and filth, our leaders are standing against the flow of time. They are imprisoned by their knowledge acquired during their past and synthesized for the context of the past, and, therefore, cannot find a tinge of wisdom to stand fit for the historical juncture they are at the moment. By the time these leaders with questionable vision learn the knowledge relevant for the present, it may already be too late or the learnt idea may have become obsolete. There are ample patterns shown to date to substantiate the assumption made that way; they only saw the flaws of 1990 constitution in 2005; saw the significance of Maoist’s demands after full ten years and 13000 lives later. But what they saw as important or unimportant in 2006 is already proving to be the opposite. So it makes one to question, “will they always remain bachelors of politics or someday turn into wise-men?” May be a donkey will never be a horse no matter how old it grows.
Do we remember the late king Mahendra’s poem, “Saktina Dekhna Bhanchhin Santan Thari Thari Ka” (I can’t see the disparity among my children)? He, the shrewd manipulator of people and a greatest obstacle to democracy, was able to at least pretend to know the disparity of people. But our astute leaders cannot even admit the appalling disparity among the children of Nepal even if that was largely the making of the past which was not on their control. Instead they are carrying the guilt of injustice on behalf of the spent force of monarchy. For two-third of a year since April 2006, their primary obsession rested on how to save the monarchy at a time when the monarchy had proved itself irrelevant and obsolete. A whole lot other energy was and is being expended on finding reasons to not devolve the old state power or to determine the right-quantity of devolution. Possibly because they only have confidence and experience to carry on the old and corrupt state but their legs start shaking when it come to handling a country with devolved power base and empowered people!
If history has taught us any lesson, let us not pick stuffs from the dustbin of history even if they had worked well in their times. Let us project towards the future of humanity that we want to build and adapt to the call of time. Let us not beg for the answer to the question of what the meanings of universal equality of humans and freedom are from the emissaries of George Bush, Tony Blair, Hu Jintao, or Manmohan Sings. Let us find ourselves through our own intellect applied to our own context. But to begin that process let us first accept that that every mother’s womb is equally pure and worthy of producing great sons and daughters without requiring a sperm of the royals or that of a specific race. Then we will find how many great sons and daughters can descend from the womb of the ordinary mothers of Nepal. Then we will be able to shelve the rule of fiefdom for ever! We will be free and liberated, but not separated!!
About the author:
Dr Pramod Dhakal is a former faculty member of Tribhuvan University and holds a Ph D in electrical engineering. He is Executive Director of Canada Forum for Nepal (cffn.ca) and can be reached at pdhakal@gmail.com.
Pramod Dhakal, Ph D
Canada Forum for Nepal
33 Bellman Drive, Ottawa, ON K2G 6C6 Canada,
pdhakal@gmail.com or +1-613-596-6692
I don to hear all this .
so please stay out of my way.narayan subedi
hey prawin asked me to ask you if it's possible for you to write a
non-inflammatory column for samudaya! ha
let me know what you think
www.sarahana.com
Please remove from your list.
Thanks
Dear Paramendra Kumar Bhagat Ji,
I am working for Madhesy rights, Dalit rights and women rights.
Thanks
Satya
Satya Narayan Shah
Executive Director
SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT PATH (SODEP)
Ramanandchowk, Ward no. 9,
Janakpurdham, Nepal
Phone/Fax: 041-523325
Mobile: 9851089711
Email: sodep@jncsweb.net
