This Movement Also Against Rana Rule: Satchit Is So Much B.S.

Kamal Thapa: “The agreement between the Maoists and the political parties will rather complicate the peace process while the issue of disarming the Maoists and the army under the supervision of the United Nations at the time of constituent assembly is a laughing matter.”

“The leaders who have been head of the government have failed to realise the difference between the Maoist’s army and the Royal Nepalese Army and this only reflects the level of their ideological bankruptcy.”

“This unnatural coalition between the seven parties and the Maoists will spur more anarchy, conflict and bloodshed.”

Satchit Shamsher Rana: “The political parties have formed an unnatural coalition with the Maoists under the guidance of the foreigners.”


And you thought the Rana rule was over, Jung Bahadur is no longer on the scene.

Democracy is every Nepali's birthright. And those who conspire against democracy ought to be tried for treason. Satchit Shamsher conspired against the people in 1990, and he is doing so now These are crimes he is committing. You document their misdeeds, and you subject them to due process.

A military crackdown does not have to happen. Those who merely speak it, those who merely issue threats are guilty of treason and should be tried by the democratic government once it takes over power.

These people are beyond redemption.


NATIONAL 6 -(Spotlight Weekly)] May 2001 Though the mobilization of army to contain internal insurgency has been finalized, its implications are still subject to debate and discussion. "When police fails to control an insurgency, then the army is mobilized to suppress the rebellion. But in such a case the hands of the army should not tied and a state of emergency needs to be declared in the region," said Satchit Shumsher JB Rana, former chief of army staff at the Royal Nepalese Army. "It would be much easier for the army to accomplish its job if the parliament and police support its actions." .... According to Rana, in Nepal, the army is much more powerful than the (Maoist) rebels. So, if there is any assault against it, it will retaliate. In such a case, the number of casualties could be much higher. In such a case, if the armed conflict gets on protracted as professed by the rebels, the country could fall into the trap of a civil war, warn experts.
Local News [The Kathmandu Post (Nepal)] September 2003 Leader of the CPN (unity centre) Chitra Bahadur KC, former judge Krishna Jung Rayamajhi, former Chief of the Army Staff, Satchit Shumsher JB Rana, Man Mohan Bhattarai of the Nepali Congress (Democratic), CPN-ML general secretary CP Mainali and other speakers called upon the Maoists to stop the serial murders and seek a solution through dialogue.
The Rising Nepal 2005
Nepali Times | Issue 135 | From the Nepali Press 2003 There must be give and take for the ceasefire to become lasting peace. His Majesty’s Government and the Maoists can’t lead the talks to a logical conclusion by themselves. Political parties, social and human rights organisations should all be taken on board. It is very sad to see major political parties talking contradictorily regarding the peace talks....... The strength of Bangladesh’s army is nearly 125,000 while its area is roughly equal to ours. Sri Lanka now has an army of 150,000. The number of soldiers in Nepal is only around 50,000. Given our geographical conditions, Nepal needs to raise the strength of its army to around 125,000. In that situation, problems like the Maoist insurgency can be prevented from happening again. A nation’s security is as essential as education, health and development. ...... It’s our good fortune the army was not politicised and has His Majesty as the supreme commander. Otherwise, its fate would have been similar to that of the bureaucracy, police and intelligence sectors. If the army had been politicised, the Maoists would be ruling the country today. ..... The king has kept the army in order. If it is controlled by the parliament, the army can’t serve the nation properly. There should be a unitary command and the army must remain under the head of the state.
Nepali Times | Issue 134 | Nation | Peace now, talks later 2003 “The Maoists seem quite serious about a peaceful resolution this time, while the government looks utterly confused,” concludes Bhogendra Sharma, who was one of the rights activists who met the Mahara-Sharma duo on Tuesday. Sources say a high-level team comprising former chief secretary Karna Dhoj Adhikari, former chiefs of the Royal Nepali Army Satchit Shumsher J B Rana and Dharmapal Barsingh Thapa, and former police chief and RPP leader Dhruba Bahadur Pradhan, have been put into place to devise the government’s peace strategy.
MS Nepal - Maoist Insurgency Said Satchit Shumsher JB Rana, former chief of the Royal Nepalese Army, "Unlike a regular army, terrorists do not fight from a single fixed position. If they continue to keep their supply lines open, the war could stretch."

In The News

This is unholy tie: Analysts Gorkhapatra, Nepal
Parties-Maoist agreement unnatural: Satchit Nepali Times
King mulling yet another autocratic move: Nepal Nepali Times
A cartoon tells it all (Nepalnews commentary) Nepali Times, Nepal
‘Dialogue initiative with Maoists legitimate’ Kathmandu Post, Nepal
Parties-Maoist agreement unnatural: Satchit NepalNews

King mulling yet another autocratic move: Nepal NepalNews
Govt will first study parties-Maoist agreement: Vice-chairman Bista
Annan welcomes Alliance-Maoist accord
Government attempting to foil mass meeting: UML
Efforts for restoration of peace positive: FM Pandey
India cautiously welcomes Party-Maoist agreement

Nepal Democracy Google Group Does Not Believe In Free Speech

http://groups.google.com/group/nepaldemocracy

"Goebbels was in favor of free speech for views he liked. So was Stalin. If you're in favor of free speech, then you're in favor of freedom of speech precisely for views you despise. Otherwise, you're not in favor of free speech." Noam Chomsky, Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media (1992).

First I got an invitation, so I joined. Then I started posting. I posted a lot. At one point I was the top poster for the month. I mean, I was active.

A few days back I learned I have been kicked out of the group. I applied again for membership. So far I have not heard from the moderator. I don't know who the moderator is. So far it appears to be a faceless entity.

I emailed a few people I knew who are with the group. They said they will bring it up with the moderator. Looks like there have been a few phone calls. A few emails. A few discussions.

The first thing that was brought up was etiquette.

Then the second thing that was brought up was national unity. These guys are funny. They feel the few things I have to say at some little Google group might be a threat to the national unity in Nepal. You got to take a second look at these guys.

Then there is offense being taken at the use of the term Pahadi chauvinism. These thin-skinned overeducated Bahuns are really upto something, it looks like.

People who pretend not to know the difference between the words "madisey" and Madhesi talk of national unity.

"I can't work with you."

These people obviously have no inkling of free speech. The group calls itself Nepal Democracy. Free speech is the fundamental tenet of democracy. That is why the king's media ordinance is offensive.

So far I have been trying to get one of the members to start a protest thread at the group's site. I am not sure it has happened as yet. So far the people have been too busy hobnobbing with whoever the moderator is.

Free speech is not a matter of convenience. You can not stand for it only when you hear pleasant things. These Bahuns can not stomach a legitimate discussion on social justice issues. That is what is happening.

They come to America, but live in their mini Nepals. Got to open your minds a little.

I prefer open discussions. That feels democratic. This group is closed. It is about a hundred individuals, of which maybe a half dozen write with any regularity. It is but a mailing list.

I prefer to do my work through this blog right here. I don't really miss the group, but this is a serious free speech issue.

Free speech can not be defined. You do not have to follow no etiquette. You don't have to be socially correct. By whose standards? You don't have to say things that make some closed minded Bahuns feel like they are actually open minded when they obviously are not.

Agreeing and disagreeing comes second.

There is a school of thought called democracy first, then social justice. I am not part of it. It is because there is another school of thought called peace first, then democracy. I am not part of that either. And they are in power right now.

Peace, democracy and social justice go together.

I am not someone ranting and raving. I have offered creative solutions.

Old prejudiced bonds have to be broken. New progressive bonds have to be formed. And that process can be smooth. You make it smooth through an open and respectful dialogue.

Check this out: The Spectrum/Dialogue Concept Is Key To Power.

If we at this end can not take the lead, what hopes at the other end?

Snuffing out dialogue on the social justice issue is exactly the wrong thing to do. Dialogue is what is needed. We have to initiate dialogue where none might exist. That is the way to go.

A constituent assembly will be a lot of dialogue. We have to facilitate that dialogue. If we can not do it here at some little Google group, what hopes at the other end in Nepal where the group situation is much more volatile, so volatile it is actually a civil war situation.

Social progress is beneficial for both the oppressor and the oppressed. Both groups benefit. Less sexism is good for both men and women, not just for women. Segregation was unhealthy for both blacks and whites in America.

This is the time for the Nepalis in America to be moving onto the next step, to go beyond moral support to actually helping with logistics. This is the time to be engaging in some massive fund-raising. This is not the time to get tripped by some modest talk on social justice.

I need to be reinstated at the Google group. I need to be talking again there.

I think all of us need to be taking a look at this Proposed Constitution and providing feedback. There is this tendency among Bahuns to somehow revive the 1990 constitution. That path is disaster. Make up your mind. That phase of history is over. Now we need to move to the next phase. There is no going back. There is only going forward.

Those who will not fight for my free speech do not have any right to protest the king's media ordinance. That is what it boils down to. No free speech is akin to no democracy. Free speech is that fundamental.

American Civil Liberties Union - Free Speech
Free Speech Radio News/Pacifica Reporters Against Censorship
ACLU: Internet Free Speech
FREEWAYBLOGGER.com - Free Speech: Use It or Lose It
Freedom of speech - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In The News

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Nepal's 'tyrant' king isolated by Maoist deal Telegraph.co.uk, United Kingdom