Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 3:15:55 PM
Subject: The petition for the right to vote
Dear Sir,
The right to vote is one of the most fundamental rights of the people. The people exercise and express their sovereignty through right to vote. This is central to democratic governance and denial of rights to vote is a denial of basic and inherent right of the people. It is also a denial of the membership of the nation. The upcoming constitutional assembly election will be the extremely important for the future of our nation. It will produce a new charter or document for the future governance of the country. New constitution will be the new charter for the governance. The election of the constituent assembly is not like the periodical election which take place a every 4-5 year. It happens only once in life time of the nation. The popular legitimacy is extremely important to survival and sustainablity of the constitution. The constitution should be owned, established and promulgated by people themselves not by anybody else. The people's ownership on the constitution is extremely and critically important for the lasting Constitution. The vast number of the Nepali people are living abroad, but they are extremely concern about future of the nation. Nepali people living abroad almost all over the world contributed significantly in the janandolanII. The Nepali people all over the world want to actively participate in the constitution making process of the country. Nepali people who are currently living out of country for some reason should not excluded from the constitution making process. the geography should not considered as a disability or disqualification for the voting right. The adoption of the new Constitution is the exercise of the sovereign will of the nation, vast number of the Nepali people should not be disallow to exercise their sovereign will. This is the defining and crucial moment in our history. The vast number of our people should not be excluded from this important process. The making of a new constitution is not only adopting merely a legal document but it is adopting or defining a basic value system of our nationhood. That's why a widest possible participation is extremely important in this context, so Nepali people living abroad should also allow to vote in this upcoming constitutional assembly election.
We should launch a massive campaign to build pressure in this regard. We set up a online petition to collect huge number of signatures. This signature will be submitted to the Nepal government and all the parliamentary parties. Please sign the petition. In order to exert effective pressure our goal should be to collect minimum 50,000 signature from Nepali diaspora. We will collect it from all over the world. Please post it to your popular site so other interested people could sign it. It is a matter of the dignity of Nepali people abroad.
The Washington based human rights organization Advocacy project has provided a technical help to set up this petition. Please visit and sign it. Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/323504904
Thank you
Kind regard
Dinesh Tripathi
phone 443 854 3910 cell
dineshtripathi2002@gmail.com
From: Madhesh Forum
To: madhesh.admin@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 2:50:27 PM
Subject: Foreign Aids: Funding Terrorism in Nepal
Dear Sir/Madam:
We are sending the following article for your attention. Thank you very much.
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Foreign Aids: Funding Terrorism in Nepal
Vivaswan, 2007 Feb 25
(Also available at: http://madhesh.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=101 )
How can foreign aids or loans to a government having no credible accountability and respect for human rights, and handed over to a terrorist group of yesteryear whose activities are evident as unabated, be taken differently than funding Taleban or Al Qaeda or Khmer Rouge regime ?
Until and unless Nepalese government conforms to democratic values, handles the grants and loans with proper accountability, respects human-rights, ensures the rights of all groups, investigates into all human-rights violations and ends the culture of impunity, Nepal should be considered for putting under economic sanction by international community and donor agencies, as remedial procedure to prevent Nepal from turning into a fertile breeding ground of terrorists.
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THE responsibilities of donor agencies do not end with approving of loans or funds for a country or an organization, but rather a duty is added as well, to monitor how those loans or grants are spent. It is duty and responsibility of donor agencies to monitor whether those funds, though given for foods, are spent on buying arms and killing people, or are just siphoned to overseas bank accounts of ministers.
1. IMPLEMENTATION AND ACCOUNTABILITY ISSUES
Several donor agencies who invested their time to investigate the use of their funds have found them not being used for the intended targets. For example, many grants for poverty reduction and micro-credits have not reached to the targeted grassroots, and many other projects were "drawn" to the area of influential leaders, rather than implementing them where they were really needed. One can easily find out from the records of working areas of the implemented projects that more projects are active in already developed areas like Sunsari or Morang, than in backward areas of Siraha or Saptary. Further, if you look at the staffs involved in such foreign invested projects and international organizations working in Nepal , they seem to be overwhelmingly in the hands of ruling-class people due to their easy access to the government and power structure, and indigenous groups, Dalits and Madheshis are heavily under-represented. For example, according to a survey report by UNDP, participation of Madheshis in international organizations and projects is only 5%, whereas that of Pahadi is 81%. Such a disparate representation in these organizations effectively allows ruling-classes people to "hijack" the projects to their areas, disregarding the real needs of other areas. Also, the reports about various issues prepared by them in these organizations tend to fill-up with the attitude of ruling-classes people, and often ignore or underestimate or even suppress the issues of minorities, indigenous people, Dalits and Madhesis. The issue of under-representation and marginalization of other indigenous groups and Madhesis being largely unknown or ignored by the world before the recent uprising is the consequential evidence of this.
The 2006 World Bank report signals significant deterioration of "voice and accountability" in Nepal in case of project implementations. The report evaluates the "Monitoring and Evaluation Reports" as of lowest category of negative practices with score of 32 (<> 67 positive), and the "Public and Legislative Involvement" as the lowest of all countries with score of 7%. Besides, Nepal has CPI (corruption perception index) of 2.5 making it to stand at 117th position in a list of 158 groups of countries. And this CPI score relates to the corruption as seen by business people, academics and risk analysts who are still mostly affiliated with government themselves in Nepal, leaving the possibility of real CPI score to be much lower (highly corrupt).
One example of sheer lack of accountability can be seen in recent allocation of funds by government for Maoists. Regarding the funds released by the government to Maoists at various intervals for ration, logistics and other needs of PLA personnel, finance minister Dr. Ram Sharan Mahat has said that the government has no knowledge of how the Maoists are spending money, further adding, “the Maoists have not submitted the details of expenses incurred so far from the fund.” The government has already funded hundreds of millions rupees to the Maoists. Whether it be from public fund or from donor agencies, if the government is funding these Maoists, who were regarded as terrorists up to few couples of months ago, isn't it the responsibility of the government to take the complete details of how Maoists have been spending the money and make it transparent? On the one side, finance minister have claimed to release more than sufficient money for the Maoists to feed for several months, whereas Maoist cadres in the camps have claimed not to get sufficient amount even for the food and had left the camps in thousands, and yet on the other side, with the cheque of hundreds of thousands rupees, alleged Nepalese Maoist is arrested while purchasing weapons from the terrorist outfit Laskar-E-Toiba in the Indian state of Kashmir by Indian army.
2. HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS
There have been innumerable cases of human-rights violations during the decade long conflict in Nepal , both from the government side and Maoists. Some of them are well documented and acknowledged as well, as in OHCHR and AI's reports (http://nepal.ohchr.org/reports.htm and http://web.amnesty.org/library/eng-npl/index ). More than 13000 people were killed, hundreds disappeared and thousands others were displaced. There have been hundreds of cases of arbitrary arrests, detentions, disappearances, abductions, tortures and summary executions, and innumerable cases of extortions. There have been several heinous crimes to kill innocent civilians like in Madi incidences. "Bulls on Parade" policy of some of donors on both sides during the conflict just accelerated and elevated the human-rights violations to greater heights.
The human-rights violation by the government during the recent Madheshi uprising is also not unknown any more. The government deployed thousands of its armed police forces, who used live bullets and excessive force to suppress the voices of millions of people. More than 30 people died with hundreds others injured from the bullets of government's forces. The government's forces even attacked hospitals, and manhandled hospital doctors and staffs.
Maoists, who are now a part of the parliament, have not stopped violating human-rights. Looking at their activities even for last one month (a list is available at: http://madhesh.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=92), it seems to be soaring rather than showing any sign of slowing down. And now, they seem to have been institutionalizing the terrorism, as the government has been quite protective about their activities, and it has been argued whether these crimes should be attributed to the Maoists or to the government. Afterall, Maoists are the ones who have their big (and several times the final) say in the parliament and the decision making process of the coalition.
3. CULTURE OF IMPUNITY
Whether it's financial misappropriation and corruption or violation of human rights, barely any case has been seriously considered by the state.
According to the government's latest report, 1917 blacklisted borrowers have defaulted Rs 32.23 billion by the end of fiscal year 2005/06, but still there has been no effective action taken against such willful defaulters, and many of these defaulters have been involved in cabinet and parliament as well. The default loans account for a third of Nepal 's annual revenues. Such lack of punishment for defaulters has grave impact on marketing system. In the words of Ken Ohashi, the World Bank chief in Nepal , "The defaulting of huge bank loans conveys the message that the rich do have access to thousands of dollars and they are free to do anything with that loans, whereas the poor people are deprived of a small amount of credit." The foreign managers of banks working in Nepal have also complained that strong political affiliation of such defaulters have made it virtually impossible to force them to pay back their loans. Their efforts towards forcing the defaulters to pay back the loans have been unsuccessful several times in the past due to the government's rejection or protection (e.g. effort of CEO of NBL).
Corruption cases are even more worrying, as barely any ministers can be isolated from it including the premiers. Former prime minister Sher Bahadur Deuba was once convicted in US$464 million Melamchi Water Supply project, and multi-time PM Girija Prasad Koirala has been also involved in a number of corruption cases including Lauda Air corruption scam. Ministers have been involved in past of misusing NPR 4 million from prime minister's relief fund to its political supporters, under the guise of releif aid to Maoist victims. Whether it's the case of former minister Chiranjiwi Wagle for making NPR 30 million by misusing his authority, or Ramagya Chaturvedi, the head of Nepal Oil Corporation for illegal earning of more than NPR 70 million, or Keshar Jung Khadga of Mechi Cusoms Office for corruption case of US$144000, all of them escaped court's premises due to their political power, moments before the verdicts were delivered. Currently the court has more than 150 corruption cases, involving many senior politicians, ministers, administrators and police officials, but it's highly unlikely that any of them will be ever prosecuted, as now all the parties themselves have ganged up in the government.
When royal government comes into power, for some time, people hear buzz about punishing political leaders of parties, and when these parties come into power, they hear buzz about punishing royal ministers. Those actions are more or less politically-motivated maneuvers or a plot to deceive donor agencies that the government is doing something, but at the end, none gets ever punished in this game. These ministers and political leaders live a life as above-the-law creatures. Even PM Girija Prasad Koirala had refused to appear in court to defend against charges by CIAA. Not only that, when his appeal to supreme court went against him, he went on defying the orders of supreme court and verbally abusing and insulting the supreme court itself! These leaders and royals consider themselves above all the jurisdictions and legislations.
Regarding human-rights, it is not unknown to the international community that enormous human-rights violations during a decade long conflict which had death toll of more than 13000 with hundreds other gone missing are not being seriously investigated by the government, despite the repeated requests from bodies like OHCHR and Amnesty International; punishing any of them is far-away thing, they are walking in public openly and boasting their deeds.
Whether it's case of heinous crimes like Madi incidence or issues of hundreds of disappeared ones both by Maoists and the government, the government is not serious at all to take any actions. Maoists are still wielding their arms in public and killing people even after joining the parliament. They are to join the government within few days, but their terrorism seems soaring. Even from the recent activities within a last one month period or so, it becomes completely evident that they are not respecting human-rights at all, and have continued numerous cases of terrorism including attacks on mass-meetings of other parties, murder, abduction, extortion and forcing children into PLAs and their mass-gatherings. More importantly, the government is giving protection to all these crimes, rather than investigating the cases and punishing the criminals. Whether it's Nepalgunj's incidence where police themselves were found to be involved in looting and attacking Madheshi ethnics, or Lahan's case where Maoists shot a teenager, seized the body and forced to cremate, or several other cases of public attacks and killing by Maoists after that, none of them are being seriously investigated. The case of killing of more than thirty people in recent uprising in Madhesh by "excessive use of forces" by the government has gone to limbo, despite a number of requests for investigation from the international bodies as well.
4. LACK OF DEMOCRATIC VALUES
Some of the incidences that reveal the government's stance towards (un)democratic values are given below.
* The current parliament is not elected one, but major parties have divided the seats among themselves and formed the interim parliament. But decisions even in this parliament are just dictated by less than half a dozen major leaders only. The parliament has been there just for okaying things that they decide. Such unelected interim parliament has been taking many critical decisions without feeling any need for public consultation, which is completely undemocratic.
* The rights of freedom of assembly and free speech have been clearly violated frequently. For example, when MJF leaders voiced their opinions against the interim constitution through a peaceful public assembly in Kathmandu , they were put behind the bars.
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* The journalists have been attacked by the government's forces (IFEX: http://www.ifex.org/en/content/view/full/80831/ ), raising the concerns about press-freedom, unless they publish materials in support of the government.
* The interim constitution made without elected assembly has been claimed to give dictatorial powers to the prime minister (Scoop: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0612/S00317.htm).
* There have been efforts to provide no opposition at all in the parliament. In the words of Prachanda, 'It will be unacceptable to our party to incorporate provision to have opposition in the interim parliament.' How can an unelected parliament without opposition be called democratic?
* Current parliamentarians have not shown only undemocratic and above-the-law behaviors, but are more inclined towards the way of terrorism. They have found attempting to enter parliament with weapons. MP Lokendra Bista threatened members of parliament belonging to other parties with a pistol inside the parliament, challenging, 'I had the weapon registered with the UN and brought it here. If you have the capacity to take action for my rough remarks, you can arrest me.'
* A bill on political parties has been presented in the interim parliament which makes it illegal for political parties to announce bandh, which effectively means ban on voicing opinions against the government. This is somewhat akin to how Panchayat system banned political parties. This bill suppresses the rights of all minorities and Madheshis to raise their voices, and clearly represents dictatorship of major parties in the coalition.
* There have been numerous attacks on mass-meetings of other parties, both by Maoists and other parties' activists. This clearly violates the democratic right of public assembly.
* Rather than addressing the problem through dialogues, the voices raised by millions of Madheshis in recent uprising have been suppressed by mobilizing thousands of armed police forces and excessive use of forces, killing dozens of people and injuring hundreds others. This strategy of using forces to full capacity and crushing the voices of people is clear signal for dictatorship.
These all facts show that the government is not respecting democratic values, and is mostly leading towards the formation of an autocratic regime.
5. FOREIGN AIDS
Foreign aids given to such a government, which does not respect human-rights and democratic values and is not accountable, will effectively nurture the dictatorship and terrorism and will lead to more corruption, more human-rights violation, and possibly even genocides. It will only allow the terrorists to use the funds and other resources under the cover of Nepalese government, and will turn Nepal into a fertile breeding ground of terrorists. Even funding specifically for certain projects in area like education is dangerous at such time, as it allows the government to essentially divert its funds, which it would have otherwise spent on fulfilling those basic needs, to buy arms, recruit cadres and nurture terrorism.
CONCLUSION
Therefore, until and unless Nepalese government and its all coalition partners conform to democratic values, handle the grants and loans with proper accountability, respect human-rights, ensure the rights of all groups, investigate into all human-rights violations and cases of disappearances and end the culture of impunity, Nepal should be considered for putting under economic sanction jointly by all international communities and donor agencies. Otherwise, it will take no time to turn Nepal into a fertile breeding ground of terrorists, and the ripple of their atrocities and heinous crimes will not be confined within the border of Nepal , but will shake the opposite side of globe as well. The case of Taliban regime in Afghanistan can just serve as an example.
Also, other diplomatic solution regarding Maoists, as per the tripartite agreement among Maoists, Nepalese Government and UN, is on the verge of failing . Despite Maoists had signed the comprehensive peace deals, they have already breached the agreement, by leaving camps in thousands, still possessing illegal weapons, not submitting all weapons and still continuing terrorism without showing any sign of slowing down. This shows the possibility of effectively "capturing government with arms" by Maoists whether it be in visible and bloody form, or just an invisible "coup" labeled with different deluding political slogans. In such a circumstance, economic sanction can prove a better and effective means to convert them into a rule-abiding political party respecting human rights and democratic values.
From: "Sainju, Sanjiv"
To: DFN-Blog-owner@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 2:46:44 PM
Subject: RE: [DFN] ???? ????? ?????????? ?? ??
Please take me out of this list.
Thanks
Sanjiv
From: Saita 1977
To: Dr. Krishna Bhattachan & Yasso Kanti Bhattachan
Cc: Dr. Om Gurung
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 1:57:59 PM
Subject:
Today, Falgun 15 [ February 27, 2007] "Magar Day" program was observed in Kathmandu as usual ! The chief guest was Deputy Prime Minister Amik Shercahn Thakali.
Sherchan spoke for unity among Janajatis. M. S. Thapa also spoke all Magars should unite. Great! I hope these two veterans had a chance to discuss current Janajati Movement also.
We can't only talk of only a particular Janajati group. We must talk of all Janajatis including Dalits and Madheshis also.
Why would we say 'Magar Day' only ? Why don't we say " Sangh Sthapana Diwas" or the '' "Association Founding Day" ? http://www.naulonepal.com/viewnews.asp?allID=78
Why are we becoming so compatriots ?
And, it should be taken into consideration Janajatis are not the king supporters either.
Saita 1977
From: om goit
To: Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 2:56:51 AM
Subject: Who will be the home minister then?
Sir,
Thankyou very much for replying me.
I have also asked the name of a person who will be replacing him. I don't expect you to say the name of Upendra Yadav because he is still to climb some stairs to be qualified for that post.
And please don't take my anything offensive. I am not related to any political party yet.
I am just putting my views.
Thankyou
Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
Perhaps Sitaula is as or more qualified as you say he is. But that is not the point. Anyone who had been Home Minister had to resign after 38 deaths. This is not about Sitaula. This is about the Home Minister.
From: "jaya@kandel.com.np"
To: paramendra@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 12:41:03 AM
Subject: HI
Dear Parmendra,
Hope things are fine with you.
I would like to request you for a small help.
Do you have email address or any contact number of Mr Hari Rokka , a senior
activist of the Nepal. If you have or you can get from any source pls help
me by providing.
Your's
Jaya Lamichhane
From: Sumit Dayal
To: Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 9:36:11 PM
Subject: Fwd: NY EVENT: UN Spec Rep Ian Martin to discuss Nepal's Peace Process March 2 at Asia Society
Hi Parmendra,
Thought that this might interest you. If your going maybe we can meet here.
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From: Satendra shah
To: nycnepali-owner@googlegroups.com
Cc: luna.ranjit@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 7:57:15 PM
Subject: Re: {NYC Nepali} Jackson Heights Event Saturday 2 PM: Madhesi Janajati Movement: Is A Soft Landing Possible?
Hi parmendra dhai
This is satendra shah. We have CAB meeting on march 3 saturday 2 p.m. to 4 p.m.I got ur email that you have programm at same time and with same persons. .We have already invited those people who are ur guest speaker.So pls change ur time.I am also madhesi . I want to suport you.If u do like that , it will be better for both , u and us.Again i request u . pls pls pls .
satendra
From: ashok gurung
To: nycnepali-owner@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 6:17:37 PM
Subject: Re: {NYC Nepali} Jackson Heights Event Saturday 2 PM: Madhesi Janajati Movement: Is A Soft Landing Possible?
Hi Paramendra:
This is terific, I hope it occurs. Keep the momentum going. I will be in Japan until March 6th.
Ashok
From: Pushkar Pushkar
To: surendra madhesi
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 5:45:40 PM
Subject: please join the group
Dear All,
Please join the group. Thanks
http://groups.google.com/group/emadhesh/
Regards'
Pushkar
From: Rakesh Mishra
To: Nityananda Khanal
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Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 2:21:14 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: take part in the discussion
Dear Khanaljee
Thanks. I don't deny that bahuns are not poor.....but I am not afraid of looking at socio economic problem from different angles. This idea of overemphasizing class difference and neglecting other socio cultural elements is basically Marxist ideology but very eurocentric in nature. In our society socio- cultural/ethnic divisions are as important as class difference. Even class differentiation is a product of those socio cultural differentiation in most of the cases. I understand the plight of living in hills....at least I have lived and travelled to some places...worked with poor hill people.....I don't mean that you are doing so but somewhere "pahare neo elites" have a tendency to subtly suggest that Madhesis didn't face any problem. Pls correct me if I am wrong. Comparing physical problems of hills and terai is more or less like comparing apples and oranges. Of course, there are some common problems. We also face our part of the problem even as an "opressor" ( Which you use for bahuns and rajputs of terai ....like you, I also know many poor bahuns in terai...but let us live that)).....Even as poor bahun young guy, you (not used as second person) had and have access to power centers more than me. I don't believe that high percentage of bahuns in power structure (In all the bodies of state) is only a result of their hard work and our situation is because we were/ are "lazy " or "coward" (as one bahun PM suggested) . Your identity was never questioned and you were not forced to grow in to an adult citizen in emotional despair . You never faced the problem of studying nepali ( saki na saki) from Grade 1. You didn't have to wear something (a Topi, which just makes our face look like monkey) just to get citizenship. Though, as you say I am an opressor, I can not forget my mother who is Indian By birth and married my father ( which is very common and no body can stop this ever) way back in 1967 was asked by a "bahun" government official to speak nepali in 1980 to get citizenship. did you face any such humiliation ? I have observed those sufferings......so Khanaljee, I can't be as broad as you can afford....let me be happy with my 'ethnic" thoughts....Once I recollect my self pride and my dignity as nepali through whatever means (certainly not violance) I will prove myself more generous than you. My strong demand for seperate state is first step in regaining my self respect. We will develop a better model of governance than those who have been in power for centuries. we will care the minority pahades in our state better tha nhow you cared about us. May be we will reserve some seats in state legislature for minority pahades in state legislature ( at least I will fight for that)...so don't panic.....Once we regain our dignity we will restore communal harmony among pahade and madhesi not the "so called harmony and peace" which victimized us for centuries.
I have given this example to some on else.....Look at the ledership of terai isuue ....from 2017..from bedananda Jha to G N singh to Upendra yadav to nagendra paswan (jwala singh).( Even you can count badri Mandal here).....Madhesi politics has also subtly acted against elites of terai .....and we will solve this problem without any "outside" intervention...and look at phade/national politics.....BP to Girija ( not Ganeshman who died speaking against "bahunBad"), Mainali to Madhav nepal, Mohan baidya to Bhattarai and Dahal (Baburam and Prachanda babu), Surya Bahdur Thapa, Kirti nidhi bista, to ---- pashupati samser and rabindra nath sharma (with Marich man being a Joker for a short period).... and so on....of course , I admit that maoists have been progressive for a while but those "two leading bahuns" displayed their bahunness during terai revolt. I very clearly remeber when GN singh was leading this cause, many people said that where are Yadavs...they are the largest group in terai o....now when Upendra jee is leading this issue, he has overnight transformed into elite of terai....I am sure even nagendra paswan will be branded like that once he comes in limelight.....People of terai are not naive now.... that they don't understand such conspiracy
I think at this moment when are throwing " Bade Raja ", we also want to get rid of those "Chhote Rajas"......I don't want to indulge myself in any misleading rationality at this moment. Thanks and sorry for my emotional outpouring.. I will again request all not to take it personally.......and I say sorry to my bahun freinds for being too straight with khanaljee.
rakesh
From: Saita 1977
To: Rana 1616
Cc: Office of the Prime Minister and Council of Ministers Nepal
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 12:57:59 PM
Subject: Re: Bahun+daliya Government trying to manipulate
----- Original Message ----
From: Rana 1616
To: Dr. Krishna Bhattachan
Cc: Office of the Prime Minister and Council of Ministers Nepal
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 11:43:14 AM
Subject: Bahun+daliya Government trying to manipulate
Dear Bhattachanji and Omji,
I read the news on the 'talk sort of thing' you guys are holding with the 'Bahun+daliya [not 'bahu+daliya' = multi-party] Democratic Government' in Dr. Bhattachan's term. http://www.nepalnews.com.np/archive/2007/feb/feb26/news11.php
http://www.kantipuronline.com/kolnews.php?&nid=101962
The current Bahun+daliya Government is still trying to manipulate.
Your stand is firm and correct and which we heartily support down here from USA.
The Maoist chairman has labeled IP movement for social justice as some 'displays of feudalism'! I don't think so.
Namaste,
BKR
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From: Nityananda Khanal
To: Rakesh Mishra
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Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 12:02:38 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: take part in the discussion
Rakesh Jee,
Thanks for your kind response and I would like to earnestly request you to read again part of my expression that you took as a joke. For your convenience I have copied it below:
"I cannot support ethnic based division of people which labels elite people like you as being "oppressed", and an uneducated, landless hill-Bahun youth who is portering for his livelihood as "ruling-class" and an element of subjugation of Madheshi."
What I meant to say is ethnic based classification of people between "oppressed" and "opressor" is erroneous. There are both categories in every ethnicity, barring some really disadvantaged/exploited groups including all Dalits (with few exceptions), Musahar, Satar, Rajbanshi, Dhimal, Meche, Darai, Danuwar, Chepang, Kumal and some proportion of Tharu. Unlike Bahun and Rajput from Terai who are mostly medium to high class, majority of Bahun-Chhetries in Pahadi communities are economically poor. Because of your perception of community structure from Terai, you tempt to think "joke" when someone says Bahun also are poor.
State mechanism and its aides exploited people in Terai in one way and those in Pahad in other way. Owing to coercive orders from "above" I still remember that my father and neighbours had to carry timbers from our village to 3-day walking distance for building palace and monuments of some important people; they were levied with their labour every cropping season; they had to go for weeks to construct/renovate roads around the territory of those "big" authorities. Before my eyes, things have changed a lot and it is still changing. Ethnic categorization is gradually fading away. But what is widening a lot is economic disparity accompanied with normlessness, fading morality, mutual love and respect among people, that crosscuts all ethnicity (with the exception of some disadvantaged groups).
As scholars and/or elite professionals, I think our role in the society should be to help for rationality. There is no dearth of people who make any issue as political or national agenda for their implicit or explicit vested interest.
Thanks and regards.
Nityananda Khanal
----- Original Message ----
From: Rakesh Mishra
To: Nityananda Khanal
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Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 10:32:20 AM
Subject: Re: Fwd: take part in the discussion
dear Khanaljee
Sorry for my late response. You have raised very interestin points in your mail.I support your view about ecological sustanibility. But what you forget that the scientific predictions about "carrying capacity" is not complete sometimes even misleading. You views are also plagued by malthusian idea of blaming everything on population growth and subtly suggesting outside intervention to communities for their survival. The community in the hills or whereever were quite sustainable with their own production and consumption patterns and I believe they could have been....if outsiders (In nepal's case, RULERS/ELITES) would have not used them to propogate their own agenda of political survival....after all they have thrived their communities for such a long time on their land. Outmigration from hills before 1930 can be considered normal...but exodus after that was copletely encouraged by rulers for their own political survival. The period after 1960 to 1980 is the worst example of that. Do you think that southward migration that took place in that period is normal quest of comfortable life? I say NO.........This was a well calculated strategy of Mahendra to strengthen his own political survival.....and the consequences are manyfold...from environmental degradation to political subjugation of madhesis by migrants.
The demand for ethnic states are very just reaction to that complex events. And I beg to differ that socialist movements are antagonistic to ethnic uprisings...Whole history of anti colonial movement was ethnic as well as socialist in nature at the same time. Do you think that hatred against white in their colonies was just simply communal.....no...they were very democratic, socialist as well as ethnic in nature. I also fail to understand how ethnic states will add to the plight of "poor bahuns"....I think rather it wil give "poor bahuns" an oppertunity to integrate with majority groups in those ethnic states. Of course when chalking out constitution we should consider class and caste both....Thats the way to bring socialism in our society.......cast differentiation is more important than class differentiation in our society.
And I will not say anything about you labelling me as "opressor" and projecting youself as "poor bahun"....thats a big joke.....to laugh at.
Thanks for sharing your views.
From: Ujjwal Bhattarai
To: ujjwal@ujjwal.com
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 11:19:56 AM
Subject: Reminder email for Wed Feb 28 Talk program
Dear all:
This is a reminder email about Chhalphal Discussion Series in NYC in
beautiful symposium on 36th floor with greatest view of the city
skyline. Please note, it is also free of cost.
Title: The Role of Religion in the Reconstruction of Nepal
Speaker: Chinta Mani Yogi
The talk program will be in Nepali language
Date: Wednesday, February 28th, 2007
Time: 7 - 8:30 PM
Location: 500 East 63rd street, Symposium (36th floor)
(corner of York Avenue and 63rd St.)
The closest subways are 4, 5, 6, N, R, W at 59th Street/Lexington
Avenue Station or the F train at 63rd Street Station
----- details ----------------------
"The Role of Religion in the Reconstruction of Nepal."
The first talk program is entitled "The Role of Religion in the
Reconstruction of Nepal." After more than a century, Nepal has been
declared a secular state by the current interim government. How will
this affect the development efforts of the country? What role has
religion played in the governance and social fabric of Nepal until
now? What role can religion play in the political and socio-economic
climate going forward, particularly given the ethnic and caste
diversity in Nepal? These are the types of questions the forum will
discuss, led by the well-known educationist, social-worker and
spiritual figure, Chinta Mani Yogi. Details of the program, including
a biography of Mr. Yogi is attached below.
The program will be held in Nepali language. You can access
information on PeopleKoBot at www.peoplekobot.com .
Talk Program
Title: The Role of Religion in the Reconstruction of Nepal
Speaker: Chinta Mani Yogi
The talk program will be in Nepali language
Date: Wednesday, February 28th, 2007
Time: 7 - 8:30 PM
Location: 500 East 63rd street, Symposium (36th floor) (corner of York
Avenue and 63rd St.)
The closest subways are 4, 5, 6, N, R, W at 59th Street/Lexington
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About Chinta Mani Yogi:
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From: Joint Forum for Human Rigths and Peace (JFHRP-Nepal)
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 9:03:33 AM
Subject: Existing Movement and Civil Society Notion
Dear all
Please find the attachment.
Regards
Ratan Bhandari
For
Joint Forum for Human Rights
From: Pushkar Pushkar
To: Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 5:40:37 AM
Subject: Namaste
Dear Paramendra ji,
Thank you. I want to ask you that are there any special online network where majorities of political and professional people from Madhesi community belong e.g. MPs, Minister, local leader, party'people, all Madhesi professional national and international organization, Madhesi press professionals, intellectual people and leaders including the all-leading people of Tarai Movement and intellectual people etc.
I think it is essential to bring these all types of Madhesi people only in a single platform. To be honest, I am not able to find such online productive network for effective and strategic communication to strengthen the ongoing movement and intensify the support toward the filed activists from various national and international community and groups.
I think it is essential so we should work on it if it is not available until now. Further, I think it should be secret and strategic too which could help over all the Madhesi movement and the betterment of Madhesh in future. I am hopeful that your ideas may make it possible and would get such network soon. Rest is fine and see you.
Best regards'
From: shyam shah
To: DFN-Blog-owner@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 3:45:57 AM
Subject: Re: [DFN] Madhesi Janajati Kranti Ka Aelan
thanks for yr regular emai, yrs efforts and sinciarity
will be make a new mile stone in Madhesi movement.
keep it yr sprit. thanks shyam shah,
jaleshwar,Mahottari
From: Shankar Karna
To: paramendra@yahoo.com
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 2:37:06 AM
Subject: [Global Voices Online] Comment: "Nepal: Madhesh Is Burning "
New comment on your post #20165 "Nepal: Madhesh Is Burning "
Author : Shankar Karna (IP: 147.92.2.47 , 147.92.2.47)
E-mail : shankarkarna@yahoo.com
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Comment:
The most important thing regarding Madheshis that anyone must remember is that Madhesh region of Nepal is not a sovereign and independent of itself. Let’s take a look. Physically it is a part of Nepal currently but ethnically it is a part of Mithilanchal and was physically too a part of Mithilanchal in past. Mithilanchal is a place where most of the people speak Maithili and infact is a mithila region that ranges from Terai parts of Nepal to northern parts of India, the capital of which is Janakpur which is located in Nepal where King Janak ruled and his palace locates here. So the aspirations of people of madhesh are more directed towards the people of mithilanchal where they have family ties and infact the motherland where people share same culture, customs and brotherhood. Like People born in Rukum have ties with people born in Dolpa culturally, politically and racially even if they don't know each other but they understand people by culture and they take no time in recognizing each others. Obviously It is a natural phenomenon supported by science and similarly one who is the aborigine of Janakpur and one who is the aborigine of Darbhanga (a city in India in northern Bihar where the great poet Vidya pati was born and is a part of Mithilanchal) and both being the part of same anchal i.e. “Mithilanchal” no one can deny the fact that Mithilanchal is our home (both people living in Janakpur and Darbhanga) by birth like hilly region for pahadis. Its therefore common the internal migration taking place in Mithilanchal (eg. Some migrating from Darbhanga to Janakpur and some migrating from Janakpur to Darbhanga for their easiness and they see it migrating in their own home). Mithilanchal is a territory that occupies both the parts of India and Nepal. Infact Pahadi people want to be identified themselves by the name of Lord Sita and Gautam Buddha in the world but after recognizing they are the part of Terai and Mithilanchal they show their their outrage to madheshi people and infact become jealous at us. Its their judgement that the people of Terai are Indians and they say it because their only source of nationalism is anti-indianism . I don't think there is any wrong in that because that is a truth because we had been Indians for so long and only before 238 years we physically became a part of Nepal. So there is no need to feel bad for Madheshis if somebody calls them Indian because it is Madheshis right to be called Indians. If people want to hear we calling Indians ourselves, we must tell them and clear them our identity and thus fight for that identity regarding the truth. And remember Truth always wins the battle whatever be the consequences and if not we will prove it so. We are mentally and physically prepared for that though we prefer to resolve the problem through table talk and common consensus rather than violence. But it has now been clear among all madheshis that they are not going to live under such inequality and injustice and with very negligible participation in state of affairs despite the madheshis accounting for half the population .Now we have already known that we are deciding our future and our way of living.
And the Pahadis are fool to think that we Madheshis have forget our motherland , our culture and our social structure and accommodated in theirs because of their feudalistic power and threats under a controlled territory. Pahadis can not tolerate the fact of ties that Madheshis have to Mithilanchal of India. Besides they are always afraid of the future if whole the people of Mithilanchal comes and conquer the power in Nepal and they remain with nothing at all. But they must evaluate the consequences if that really does happen. And till now they have been successful to keep us under control knowing our weaknesses and fooling us in the name of Hinduism. They know Madheshis enjoy simple ,innocent and hard-working life with mutual understanding and brotherhood and thus they take advantage of our innocence and remain in power and utilizing all the resources that madheshis have (75% of revenue generated from terai and madheshi people) for their benefits alone. The reason they praise our valued Deepawali, Holi and chhat festival because they are well aware of our simple ,happy and brotherly life. Infact some kind of jeolosy is always there in their mind and they are aware that once we madheshis are given opportunity in state affairs we always tend to march above them politically and culturally.
So the problem seems to be never ending for now. We must terminate the violence and look for a happy, peaceful and successful life individually. So the question arises on how we can solve the problem? Yes, there is a complete solution for this. I will tell you. There are only two ways. The first one is to fulfill the demand that the terai activists are currently demanding i.e. representation on the basis of population and declaring the Madhesh a separate state. This only ensures the Madheshis rights and their freedom and their right of self-esteem, self-actualization self-determination and self-rule because the history has shown that Madhesh never runs for the welfare of Madheshis if it it in the hand of Pahadis. This way Madheshis can make their life better and obtain a good standard of living because their resources will no longer benefit for others except for themselves and this can be obtained through peaceful revolution and table talk. We become a part of Nepal in this way not only physically but emotionally as well but with our unique identity, our own culture , our own understanding and our own way of life with self-esteem, self-determination and self-actualization. The second way follows the first way if the first way is not fulfilled. If the first way is not fulfilled, we madheshis compulsorily but not by our will have to go for revolution both armed and unarmed and we are determined for our identity and the truth. And we the people of Mithilanchal have always remained truthful and will remain truthful forever. And after complete freedom , its Madheshis who are going to do decide what they are going to do with their land and their motherland with a distinct identity that they are not having at present. So it’s not the madheshis who have to act or suffer now. The madheshis have for now only to look for the responses from Pahadis regarding the first way that the madheshis have sought. Its pahadis who have to act now and on the basis of their performance Madheshis are going to decide what measures they will take in future and they have already pre-decided about the action and reaction. So its better for the Pahadi government to decide on time the needs of Madheshis otherwise they have to repent in the future. Moreover, Pahadi people and Pahadi government have very few time to decide otherwise they will be the ones responsible for the mass destruction of lives and infrastructure.
We want peace but we don’t want peace where lies injustice and inequality, negligible participation in state affairs and lack of self-determination, self-esteem and self-actualization and avoidance from utilization from our own resources and don’t want Pahadis representation in Madheshi areas. Above mentioned paragraph is my independent thought without being pressurized from Pahadis thought of unity in diversity but I love diversity in unity and this is the “aawaaz” and the general feelings and aspirations of Madheshi people. Hope the first way works.
You can see all comments on this post here:
http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2007/01/31/nepal-madhesh-is-burning/#comments
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To: ranjit kanaujiya
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 12:52:45 AM
Subject: check it...Madhesi Aawaz
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From: Anti Monarchy
To: DFN-Blog-owner@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 11:37:35 PM
Subject: RE: [DFN] Madhesi Janajati Kranti Ka Aelan
Mr Bhagat Ji please remover me from the you list pplease do me favour
thanks
From: Ram B Chherti
To: DFN-Blog-owner@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 11:30:50 PM
Subject: RE: [DFN] Madhesi Janajati Kranti Ka Aelan
Thank you for this.Quite impressive.I have full empathy with your cause.
From: Malpi International College
To: DFN-Blog-owner@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 11:21:30 PM
Subject: Re: [DFN] Madhesi Janajati Kranti Ka Aelan
pls. stop this spam. don't want to receive it anymore
From: Lalit Jha
To: jpmandal@gmail.com; drbiplav@hotmail.com; ljha@jeo.com; ileshsingh@gmail.com; r-sah@sbcglobal.net; roger.adhikari@gmail.com; binduc@gmail.com; binodshah@yahoo.com; shahbk_2001@yahoo.com; rajayadav_13@yahoo.com; ratanjha@gmail.com; bijayraut@gmail.com
Cc: Lalit Jha
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 10:45:50 PM
Subject: FW: ANTA - Status of Terai Movement Victim Fund Collection a/o Feb 24th
Dear all:
Attached is the status of collection of fund raised by ANTA as of Feb 24th, to help victims of recent Terai movement. Thank you very much to all who have already pledged and to all who have sent the check. If you or your friends like to donate for this cause, please send your donation as soon as possible. The pledge for the donation can be made by emailing at ljha@jeo.com . Just as a reminder, ANTA is a Tax exempt organization and hence your donation could be tax exempt.
Please make your check payable to “ANTA”. In memo, please write “For Victims of Terai Movement”. Please mail your check to:
Lalit Jha; Treasurer, ANTA; P O Box: 242; Wahoo, NE 68066
ANTA president is currently visiting Nepal to make arrangement for proper disbursement of funds and meet victims of this movement. We will report to all the donors with full transparency of fund disbursement. If you have any questions or comments, please feel free to write to any of the ANTA’s executive members. We really appreciate your time and consideration to this important cause. If you have pledged but do not see your name in the spreadsheet, please email me. The contributors name will also posted on ANTA web site www.terai.org .
Sincerely,
Lalit Jha
Treasurer, ANTA
www.terai.org
From: Pooja Shahi
To: DFN-Blog-owner@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 9:48:04 PM
Subject: Re: [DFN] Madhesi Janajati Kranti Ka Aelan
r u pavitra
From: Prakash Bom
To: nycnepali-owner@googlegroups.com; Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 9:12:05 PM
Subject: Re: {NYC Nepali} Jackson Heights Event Saturday 2 PM: Madhesi Janajati Movement: Is A Soft Landing Possible?
If this news is true and it is going to happen then MPRF's motive is clear that it wants to topple Democracy that people's movement II has brought. This development is instigated by the regressive force just as poeple's movement had toppled the Gyanendra.
From: Prakash Bom
To: nycnepali-owner@googlegroups.com; Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 9:02:50 PM
Subject: Re: {NYC Nepali} Jackson Heights Event Saturday 2 PM: Madhesi Janajati Movement: Is A Soft Landing Possible?
Bhagat Ji,
IT IS A GRAVE CONCERN:
This will be very grave consequence if the MPRF leader Upendra Yadav is mobilized by the Palace through royalists Madhesi elites. It is unknown matter to the people of Nepal both Madhesi people and rest of Nepali poeple.
Consider this 'fighting against the Maoists or Maoists fighting against the MPRF' will give wrong message to the people of Nepal and chances to the regressive forces for the monarchy to come back violently. Then Madhesi leaderships will be blamed if MPRF's leadrships are hiding their true face. It is for Madhesi intellectuals to find out the fact having Madhesi people investigate the mattter. It will be wiser to take pre-caution than follow blindly in the name of Madhesi civil rights. Please do not take this comment negatively but it could bring downfall to all that people's movement II have achieved.
Here is the blog on this matter:
http://www.blog.com.np/
The leader of MPRF, Upendra Yadav, is not a person with his own decision. He is a puppet of some unseen forces and is doing a lot of harm to Nepali nationalism by staging one agitation after another and disregarding the offer made by the Prime Minister.
Who is encouraging Updenra to go back to the streets of Terai is the one who will benefit the most if the problem in Terai turns into worst. Generals like Dilip Shumser Rana are still there in Nepali Army who will take no time to act for the interests such force. India didn't want to revise the Trade treaty and their brat soldiers entering our territory and beating up our policemen. Sad but true, the Indian bureaucracy has never been a true friend of Nepal.
http://www.blog.com.np/united-we-blog/2007/02/24/maoists-in-bullying-spree-what-is-the-problem-comrades/
Look forward to coming to your program -
Prakash Bom
-----------------------
On 2/25/07, Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
This is being talked about. Once finalized, I will email you again. Email me your feedback now.
http://www.madhesi.net
Program details, tentative
Madhesi Janajati Movement: Is A Soft Landing Possible?
Guest Speakers: Gopal Siwakoti and two friends from Nepal (10 minutes each)
Local Speakers: Paramendra Bhagat, Karma Gyalden Sherpa, Tek Gurung,
Ram Nepali, Junu Ghale, Bindu Chaudhary, Divita Mehta (10 minutes
each)
Host: Paramendra Bhagat
60 minutes: Free flowing Q and A session
Saturday 2-5 PM March 3
Satya Narayan Mandir, Jackson Heights
Ticket: $5 per person (proceeds will go to cover the event expenses
---- any leftover will go towards a future event, all book keeping
will be transparent, online)
Organizer: Hamro Nepal, world's first digital democracy organization.
http://www.myspace.com/paramendra
http://www.paramendra.com
http://www.madhesi.net
From: Anil Shahi
To: insncore@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 7:12:14 PM
Subject: Update on Alliance's Jana Andolan Victims' Fund
Dear all,
Many of you donated money to our efforts to raise funds for the Jana Andolan
victims last April. Please accept our sincere gratitude one more time for
your donations.
As part of our committment to remain accountable, we have been providing you
with updates on the funds' usage. We had dispensed funds to Nepal Jesuits
and Society of Ex-Budhanilkantha Students (SEBS) for the stated purpose.
You can find links to the letter of acknowledgement from the New England
Society of Jesus, pictures of the event organized by SEBS, along with the
list of recipients, and news clip of the event from eKantipur at:
http://www.alliancenepal.org/Emergency%20Call.htm
Please forward the link to anyone who might be interested in the (proper)
usage of the funds.
By providing you with the constant updates on the status of the funds, we
hope we can establish firm trust from you in our future actions in promoting
democracy and human rights in Nepal.
Sincerely,
Anil Shahi
General Secretary, ADHRN
From: Anil Shahi
To: nycnepali-owner@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 6:30:29 PM
Subject: RE: {NYC Nepali} Jackson Heights Event Saturday 2 PM: Madhesi Janajati Movement:
Paramendra,
Can this be postponed? I really can't not attend Adhikar's event. I am
committed.
Anil.
From: Madhesi Nepal
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 4:41:48 PM
Subject: Madhesh Integration into Nepal: Historical Case & Context
Hi All,
Please find the Latest Posted Articles
1. Madhesh Integration into Nepal: Historical Case & Context - Ram Manohar
2. Dialogue for Integrated and Affluent Nepal - Professor Hari Bansh Jha
3. New Confrontations, Old Coercion - Kanchan Lakshman
4. India's National-Security Stakes In Nepal - Dipankar Biswas
5. In Favor of Ethnic States - Rakesh Mishra
Visit:
https://madhesi.wordpress.com
https://madhesi.wordpress.com/news
From: Pushkar Pushkar
To: Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 3:14:00 PM
Subject: Namaste
Namaste ,
Thanks you. I am always with you. see you
Best regards'
Pushkar
From: Ujjwal Bhattarai
To: Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 2:28:58 PM
Subject: Re: Announcing PeopleKoBot - a Chhalphal Discussion Series in New York
u must be out of your minds.
On 2/25/07, Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
> So you have funds to fly in people from Nepal?
>
> http://www.myspace.com/paramendra
> http://www.paramendra.com
> http://www.madhesi.net
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Ujjwal Bhattarai
> To: Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 4:10:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Announcing PeopleKoBot - a Chhalphal Discussion Series in New York
>
> Certainly not. We will work with them to arrange date and time which
> suits them and us. Do you have anyone in mind.
> Thanks bro.
>
> Ujjwal
>
> On 2/21/07, Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
> > Do the panelists have to be NYC based?
> >
> > http://www.myspace.com/paramendra
> > http://swapnbiz.blogspot.com
> > http://www.paramendra.com
> > http://www.madhesi.net
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Ujjwal Bhattarai
> > To: Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
> > Cc: Diksha Mudbhary
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 3:08:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: Announcing PeopleKoBot - a Chhalphal Discussion Series in New York
> >
> > Hi Paramendra:
> >
> > That is a fun part - little suspense - that might bring people to the venue. :)
> > Read about him on our site or just google his name. Our site is ok. I
> > am there now.
> >
> > Feel free to suggest speakers (or panel) as well, when you suggest the
> > topic. We have few other topics and speakers in mind as well for
> > March, April. We'll see.
> >
> > Ujjwal
> >
> > On 2/20/07, Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
> > > U2. No, I don't know Yogiji. So actually I am suspicious this might sound like a campaign for a Hindu Rashtra.
> > >
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > More the reason to be there!
> > >
> > > Your site is down.
> > >
> > > Next topic I'd like to suggest.
> > >
> > > Federalism: What Shape Should It Take?
From: ashmina ranjit
To: ashish.bajracharya@cornell.edu; Ashok Gurung
Cc: basanta ranjitkar
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 12:32:51 PM
Subject: Citizen's Movement for Democracy and Peace --REPUBLICAN CULTURAL CONCERT
dear friends!
namaste!
its been long since... sorry for being out of contact for so long...
but u all were in my heart n mind... thinking of u all n missing u all
n hopeping u all r well... n enjoying the the joy of life-love above
the best...
nepal' oostai thiyo... yesto chha ani yestai narahala bhanne kura ma
tapai-haami, sabai, aashbadi chhaun!...
Citizen's Movement for Democracy and Peace (CMDP) is organizing
Republican Cultural Programmes nationwide. CMDP is seeking your
support... plz, find the attached letter. plz, SUPPORT!!! and also'
plz forward the letter to other friend!
--
love n peace
ashmina
www.ashmina.com
www.ashminaranjit.com
Hello,
Just to update you. American University/ WCL event went very well. In order to find detail about it Please click http://www.nepalipost.com/nepali/samachar.php?&nid=2604 There is a news report about it. Thank you so much.
Kinds regards
Dinesh Tripathi
From: Mohan Karna
To: madhesi-owner@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 6:42:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Madhesi] चॠनावी जंग
HI PARMENDRA JEE
MADHESI IN NEPL ARE TRYING HARD TO GET THE GOAL REACHED BUT SO MANY HURDLES I HOPE YOUR COOPERTION TO DRAW THE INTERNATIONAL ATTENTION BECAUSE IN NEPAL EVERYITHING HAPPENS ON INTERNTIONALPRESSURE
HOPE TO HEAR FROM U SOON
MOHAN KUMAR KARNA
HR ACTIVIST
From: Shyamal Shrestha
To: DFN-Blog-owner@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 5:24:25 AM
Subject: Re: [DFN] Two Things To Do To Prevent April Kranti III
Dear Bhagat ji,
Your views are well taken but let me assure you that Madhesis are not the only section of Nepalese society facing exclusion and discrimination. Dalits, adivasis and janajatis have similar concerns. That a section of the Madhesi population (including so called 'intellectuals') is eager on foiling the Constituent Assembly election is a tragedy since it would lead to the Balkanisation/Partition of Nepal. No Madhesi leader seems to have a vision that recognizes the need to maintain national integrity while ensuring Madhesi concerns. Alas, this will sow the seeds of civil war and the people will pay a heavy price.
The least cost option is that the June polls should go ahead in a free and fair manner. Of course, the Intermim Constitution should be amended, as per proportional representation and redrawing of constituencies. In it lies the welfare of all Nepalis.
Sincerely,
Shyamal Shrestha
From: Ram Manohar
To: ourmadhesh@yahoo.com; Paramendra Bhagat
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 1:12:01 PM
Subject: Madhesh Integration into Nepal- Historical Case & Context
Hi,
For you information.
Also read
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Hamilton Note on Excessive & unnecessary tax collect on gun point
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Hamilton describes the land tax system in Saptari and Mahottari districts as follows:-
" The land-rent is collected by two Fouzdars, one for Saptari, the other for Mahottari; but these also collected some trifling dues which have not bee let with the sayer or duties on markets; for there is no regular system of finance. These dues are those on marriage (Bihadani), on contracts concubinage (Sagora), and a fine on adulterers of rupees 2-10/16 levied by the collector, besides the fine that goes to the Raja; for the man who has farmed the duties on the markets takes a part of the fine, amounting to rupees 2-10/16. the following will show the sums collected on these hands in the year Sambat 1867, (A.D. 1806)" Hamilton
Defination of Fouzdar:
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A district or local functionary responsible fro revenue collection and other functions in the Tarai. In Saptari and Mahottari district administration appears to have been been in the hands of Fouzdars until1785. they were responsible fro the appointment of local and village level revenue function aries. They allotted waste lands for cultivation and provided loans and oterh facilities ti settlers. They made necessary disbursements in the district and submitted accounts to Kathmandu. They had authority to recruit troops in the event of foreign aggression and to keep military installations in a state of constant preparedness. They ofter discharged these functions in the capacity by contractors called Subbas. Dang was under a Fouzdar until 1816.
State treatment during settlement (An Example)
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"Between the census period of 1961 to 1971. Within ten years interval near about 61000 tharus were forced to migrate from Dang ot outside (Banke, Bardia, Kailali, Kanchanpur and even in Indian U.P. border."
Source:: http://www.merodang.com/dang_history.htm
Nepal as a country
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It was only in 1930 AD, when Nepal really appreaciated that Nepal lie outside Kathmandu too. Till then they were ruling madhesh, on the same model, as Britishers were ruling India. It is also supported by the fact that, there was visa for madhesi to enter kathmandu. Plz note VISA is for different country, and ruler was aware of this fact too. Nepal word was officially accepted only in 1930s.
Source:: http://members.fortunecity.com/dharantimes/ethnic.htm
Here is a full discription of Makwanpur, Digbhandhan , Indrakumari & PN Shah
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At the age of fourteen, Prithvi Narayan was married with twelve years old Indra Kumari, the daughter of King Hemakarna Sen of Makawanpur. Queen Chandra Prabhavati wanted to have matrimonial relation with Makawanpur with a view to get some help of arms and ammunition from Makawanpur. The marriage ceremony was held in Makawanpur. After the Marriage was solemnised, Prithvi Narayan Shah wanted to take his wife with him, but according to the custom of Makawanpur, she was not to be sent to her husband immediately after the marriage. He came alone to Gorkha. After some time, he went Makawanpur to take his wife. But a dispute arose between Prithvi Narayan Shah and the king of Makawanpur and Prithvi Narayan Shah left again Makawanpur alone. On his way back to Gorkha, he went to see the kingdoms of the valley. He disguised himself as an ordinary man and from the hill of Chandragiri he saw the valley kingdoms, which he wanted to conquer for himself.
When the king of Makawanpur heard that Prithvi Narayan Shah had ascended the throne of Gorkha, he invited him to visit Makwanpur and take his wife with him. Prithvi Narayan Shah was unwilling to go to Makawanpur to invade the valley. So, he went to Makawanpur. But no good understanding between the two kings could be established. It so happened that the soldiers of Makawanpur saluted Prithvi Narayan Shah without removing their shoes. Prithvi Narayan Shah considered this as an insult. So, in a fit of passion, he beheaded some of them with his sword. At this, there were serious exchanges of hot words between Prithvi Narayan Shah and the Prince of Makawanpur, Digbhandhan Sen. Prithvi Narayan Shah returned to Gorkha empty-handed but with full information about the Malla rulers of Kathmandu valley.
Source:: http://www.infoclub.com.np/nepal/history/history_unification.htm
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Thanks,
dear Khanaljee
Sorry for my late response. You have raised very interestin points in your mail.I support your view about ecological sustanibility. But what you forget that the scientific predictions about "carrying capacity" is not complete sometimes even misleading. You views are also plagued by malthusian idea of blaming everything on population growth and subtly suggesting outside intervention to communities for their survival. The community in the hills or whereever were quite sustainable with their own production and consumption patterns and I believe they could have been....if outsiders (In nepal's case, RULERS/ELITES) would have not used them to propogate their own agenda of political survival....after all they have thrived their communities for such a long time on their land. Outmigration from hills before 1930 can be considered normal...but exodus after that was copletely encouraged by rulers for their own political survival. The period after 1960 to 1980 is the worst example of that. Do you think that southward migration that took place in that period is normal quest of comfortable life? I say NO.........This was a well calculated strategy of Mahendra to strengthen his own political survival.....and the consequences are manyfold...from environmental degradation to political subjugation of madhesis by migrants.
The demand for ethnic states are very just reaction to that complex events. And I beg to differ that socialist movements are antagonistic to ethnic uprisings...Whole history of anti colonial movement was ethnic as well as socialist in nature at the same time. Do you think that hatred against white in their colonies was just simply communal.....no...they were very democratic, socialist as well as ethnic in nature. I also fail to understand how ethnic states will add to the plight of "poor bahuns"....I think rather it wil give "poor bahuns" an oppertunity to integrate with majority groups in those ethnic states. Of course when chalking out constitution we should consider class and caste both....Thats the way to bring socialism in our society.......cast differentiation is more important than class differentiation in our society.
And I will not say anything about you labelling me as "opressor" and projecting youself as "poor bahun"....thats a big joke.....to laugh at.
Thanks for sharing your views.
From: RAKESH KUMAR MISHRA
To: Omkar R. Parajuli
Cc: DFN-Blog-owner@googlegroups.com; paramendra@yahoo.com
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 10:46:03 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [DFN] Nepal Sarkar Needs To Set Up A Tribunal
I will also suggest that mails should not be sent to those who don't like it. I hope you will take care of it.
Rakesh
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:08:31 -0500 "Omkar R. Parajuli" wrote:
Hi
I am sorry I don't know who you are. I appreciate if you don't send any
e-mails
to my address. If you really want to talk with me, give me your phone number,
then I might know what to do with your type of guy who sends e-mail to bug
unknown person.
From: surendra madhesi
To: Paramendra Kumar Bhagat
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 9:09:31 AM
Subject: we need your support
Hi respected sir,
I am Surendra Prasad Sharma from India , Karnataka; we need your support, ideas, for the all India madhesi student association, India , we have so many members in this association. Already our work is begins on the 5 state of the India . We went through your so many article on net in madhesi.net and madhesi international, hamro Nepal we impressed with your articles.
We are hopefully on this matter
Surendra,
Manipal, india
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