September 16: Sajha Buzz

Protest rally in NY City on 16th of..
Protest in NY City Part II ..
Protest Against Protest in NYC
Protest In NY City

Let send message to Our friends in Nepal that we are with them ...... I think all family are equal, people who support monarchy any firm are willing to reward one family with power and money when other familes go hungry..... Nepali people has to pay Paras 6.5 laks per kid/year ..... Paras oldest son gets 12.5 laks per year. For Paras, it is easy to be rich just have more babies ......

If you want to encourage more participation in New York and want to further the republican cause, do it my telling people about the merits of what a republic will do for the people, not by chastizing Paras and Gyanendra.

I oppose monarchy system. As I told you before I find monarchy system as discriminatory it is immoral and it is castism and racism. Since I believe we have outlawed castism and discrimination base on caste. Then why are we promoting caste system and discrimination for the head of state? I would oppose monarchy system even if god himself of king of Nepal. I don't have any trouble accepting Mr Gyanedra or Paras as head of state if they win the vote for head of state. I can accept anyone as head of state who wins election.

At what time you guys are protesting infront of the UN Building? I am just wondering if it is during afternoon, during my lunch break, then you may have an additional protester, RSVP. Or else it is too costly to use my sick day for Sept 16th, you know.

I would be protesting for Republican democracy with multi parties system. See I am not for any particular party or person. I don't even know who I would vote right now. But I would accept people's choice even if my person loose badly. Cause I would get another chance in 4 years to vote again.

You have poor mentality that the GORA (international monitors) to conduct the election. If you don't trust our own authorities to conduct the election, then how can you trust the person elected by you? Or may be in the initial stage you are going to elect some GORA (foreigners) to be first president of Nepal as well?

WHEN I SEE THIS WEB IT SEEMS THERE IS NO ONE WHO NEEDS MONARCHY IN NEPAL. BUT WEB DO REPRESENT PEOPLE LIKE YOU ALL NOT NEPALES . I HAVE SOME QUARRIESTO YOU ALL., DO YOU ALL KNOW WHEN MAOIEST PROBLEM STARTED ? IS IT DURING KINGS ACTIVE RULE? ARE OUR POL LEADERS CAPABLE TO ADDRESS MAOIEST PROBLEM ? WHAT WERE THEY DOING UNTILL 10,000 PEOPLE DIED? IS THAT JUSTIFIED TO SAY AGAIN THOSE PEOPLE CAN SOLVE THE PROBLEM? DIDN'T THEY GET CHANCE TO SO THEIR ABILITY? DID DEMOCRACY ACEPT PEOPLE MANDET FOR 5 YEARS DURING THE ERA SINGLE TIME? HOW MANY MID TERM POLE TOOK PLACE IN A POOR COUNTRY LIKE OURS? ARE WE READY TO HANDEL DEMOCRACY? WHERE ONE CAN BUY VOTE WITH 20 CENT. PEOPLE INTELECTUL LIKE YOU ALL SHOULD KNOW BEFORE SAYING SOMETHING. HOW MANY ELECTED MP ARE EDUCATED AND HAVE GOOD ATTITUDE. PEOPLE LIKE YOU ALL RASTRAGHATI HAD ALREADY LEFT US ALONE . SO DO NOT TRY TO CREATE MORE IRONIC DAYS TO US. WE ARE HERE IN OUR MATRIBHUMI WE WILL TAKE CARE AS OUR FORE FATHER HAS DONE. IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE WEATHER YOU ALL PROTEST ,CRY, GET MAD,BANG YOUR HEAD ON WHITEHOUSE, OR LALKILLA . KING AND WE CREATED THIS COUNTRY, WE MAINTAIN TILL NOW WE WILL TAKE CARE OF UNTILL ONE DROPE OF BLOD REMAIN ON US. WE WILL PROTECT MONARC BEFORE OUR FAMILY . WE DO NOT AFRAID WITH TERRORIST TOO. "BIRA BHOGYA BASUNDHARA" FIRANGI KO ADMA BAHAKANU KATI SANDARBHIK HOLA CHETANA BHAYA.

...we have been trying monarchy system more then 250 years so now time to try some new system. And that system is called Republican democracy. Let's give republican democracy time. You can't correct 250 years plus mismanagent in 10 years.

Isn't it a matter of shame that people who left the country in search of a better life are deciding things for the people and the country they left behind.

There was time for monarchy system. I am simply saying no one should be above the law. Everyone has to obey the law. As I told you I have no problem if Mr Gyandra stands for election and wins. I am saying head of state should be elected not selected. I am not telling to Nepali people what they need to do I am just demanding my right to vote for head of state of my choice.

Tell me something, what have you (yes you on a personal level) done for Nepal? We have always been vocal about yo bhayena tyo bhayena, we have not been able to back that up with any action. May be its time to close our eyes on who rides that black mercedes and just work around the system or with the system (even if its crooked) for the utlimate goal, which I believe is to better the lives of the people in Nepal. When we talk about how various republican states did well, we tend to overlook the French revolution and/or the great depression in the US and how they fought back with the system they had, not looking around the world and saying "hey, may be we need monarchy, as England seems to be doing so well." ....... If you are a Nepali, lets get together and shoot down the real target first. Maoists are the real and most significant problem right now. When our King (or any leader that's representing our country) is in a foreign land, he deserves to be welcomed not insulted! There's a saying in Nepali that means that issues regarding one's home stays in the house. What happenned to that Nepali in you? ...... Tell me one thing, how has this royal move, personally affected you (don't go bullocks on subjective issues now)? Again, its a shame we are wasting time in trying to bring about another political change.... the players are and will be the same, say it panchayat, democracy or (hopefully not) a republican state. ....... When you make statements like "In the world it has already proven only democracy could give people better life in the long run," make sure you give me some evidence. Because, there has been not proof of such unless you are talking about your mind which has proved such silly banter....... Last but not the least, its not "Mr. Gyandra," its King Gyanendra if you consider yourself a Nepali. Last time I checked we still have a King and some of us don't take anything else for that matter, and to answer your possible arising doubt, its not democracy in Nepal so you cant do/say whatever you want!

When the head of the state of India comes, Indians are proud how much it got the coverage. When the head of the state of Pakistan comes the same thing all over the US and in their country. And look at us the moronic Nepali with lobotomized brain! We go and protest when the head of the state comes. We call him names, we spill our frustration -sexual, menial, and what not - in front of the world. ....... Do you think Paravez was elected? Do you think all Pakistanis are happy with the state of their state? Indian primeministere is elected, yes, I agree. But, do you think people are happy with the rampant corruption, death by flood and what not in their country? Do you see them protesting infron of their motorcade? OF COURSE NOT. BECAUSE they are not as stupid as our "DEMOCRATIC" Clique here.

People who post here are very intelligent and smart but not a very good communicators. Most of Nepali it would be hard to understand Geo politics, micro or macro economic theory or other factors we talk here. Most people see things black and white. They understand when we say Paras kids and their kids should have same right over Nepal. They understand that it is immoral to give Paras oldest son 4235 per day while they have sent their kids to bed with almost empty stomach. I have seen lots of Nepali who have their kid In the USA, proclaim that now they have kids who could be president of the USA. But in the same time how could they tell their cousins in Nepal that their Kids has no right be head of state.

Paras ko chhora le line din ko 60.5 dollar ko katro dadh gareko. Sambidhan le diyeko subidha anusar khayeko na ho. Corruption ko kura gareko bhaye suhauthyo. Chappal chhap haru mahal ma pugeko sambandhi kunai gunaso chhaina, khali raja ko chhora ko talab ma matra ryal katne? Tesma monarqi lai kina gali garne, testo prabadhan bhayeko sambidhan ra sambidhan banaune lai po gali garnu paryo. ....... Teso ta President Bush le khane talab ra NY ko homeless ko arthik stithi pani compare garna milccha. Aba sambidhan le nai tyo bebastha gareko chha bhane ke ko tauko dukhairakheko? ..... Constitutional monarchy ma King does not have executive power. Executive power is vested on head of the government (Prime Minister). Teti kura pani nabujhne kasto lato raichha yo ta? Khali lato le bau bhanna napayeko jasto ekohoro lageko lagyai chha. 16 Sepetember ma ayera karaye bhai halyo ni. President huna ko lagi janadhar tayar garne ra vote magna ramro mauka pani milchha.Tes pachhi ta Paras ko chhora Chhori le khane talab afno bachcha harulai khuwaye bhai halyo!!!

Maoist wants people like you. You would do very good job for them on their hiring department. How could you try to justify for giving one kid 60 dollars (4235 rupees) per day and sending other kids bed hungry? Yes go tell those people who make less then dollar (less then 70 rupees) a day that we should pay one kids that kind of money, but we have to send your kids hurry. ....... Maybe for you 60 dollars /day is nothing. You might make 1000 dollars day. And I dun care how much you make as long as we don?t have to pay your salaries, but if we have to pay someone?s salaries then we have every right examine about it. We have right to know if our payment is producing result or not and if payment is like pouring water in sand then we have to stop paying. .... And paying monarchy is like pouring water in sand. ..... Answer these questions? Do you support job in caste base? Do you support job in race basis? Do you believe one family of Nepal owns Nepal and Nepali? Do you feel only one family has right to be head of state?

I don't know New York City well. that is why with sadness I have to refuge your invitation. But don't worry I would be In Rally AM

we will not let our king down. let war goes for 100 years but we will not let our king down .

Anti monarc, areyou a bastered,i dought. why don't you go for election around your family and neighbour weathre your father is really your or your mother has slept with somebody else . you think everything should decied by election isn't it. you idiote,look at kirgisthan elected president .tero bau haru elected bhaera PM ko pad samhalna sakdaina ta muji aija na ta ktm ma prisedent huna . ani dekhaula sala chor. .....anil shai ,sahako nam ma kalanka hosta, ta sala bhanji joi hoinas. bado domcratic bhachhas, tero kalo jhanda le lad.. pani nepardaina. i muji haru manis bhae po sabhya kura bolnu . jast lai tes tai dhidolai nistai. ......anti g , keta ho ki keti ,ki bicha ko paris. sala hijada. ..... rastghati lai jati bhane pani pugdaina yar . we will not let our king down. let war goes for 100 years but we will not let our king down . we nepalese do not belive fata palayan badi rastra ghati haru. des lai dukhda USA ma , santi bhae lootna feri nepal aulas chor ho feri.ek ek gari chak ma lat hanu parchha keti bhae pu ma sisno launa parchha. timi haru ko kuro sunyo ki ramro kura garne thau nai hunna.bau bje le looteko dhan le yha aies ahile sosan ko kuro garchas. ku chor nepal nalooti eha aipugekochas.ko rastra ko paisa le padhana ai ytai gaeba, rastra namari ma yeha ae bhane kohi chhas. huda huda sena ka bhagauda samet ko eha thulo swor re katiko aant radiko chhora haruko.

It shows clearly what kind of people support unsupportable system from any angle. Monarchy system in 21st is not defendable so you take refuge of filthy word to defend it

you want republic ,come here and fight for it . don't use bak chturai and try to get cheep popularity. you think people are taking it seriously? we support king because we love our country.king and nepal are Paryaya bachhi word for us . see mahedraagar, jumla, dang , kailali ,wherever HM visite . People are crying and dyeing to great and see him. So all these people are not Nepalese? all these people are asking HM for republic!!!!.only people in ktm pol party tatuharu and you all need republic not true nepalies. what a great people you all are,trying to represent our country staying over there and try to degrade our king whom we take as our pride and only hope remain.these are some reason why i use such words ke . Dont try to represent rotten political partys with the money of curruption. thats all i wana say. we are not that bad as we use words . it is because you all are trying to mislead nepalese.that is our concern. try only that game which you can win.chetana bhaya .

By the way our monarch is not for 21st century, it is for ever. until there is sun and moon remain it will be till then , HER DAI JAU NA. YOU PEOPLE ARE THINKING YOU CAN SAY ANYTHING BECAUSE THERE IS NO ONE TO WRITE ON BEHALF OF PRESENT SYSTEM , YOU KNOW PEOPLE LIKE US DOESN'T HAVE TIME TO DO ALL THEESE THINGS, IF YOU WANT WE CAN MAKE HUNDRED COMMENT PER HOUR.

Dear AM ,21 st century democracy is the wave we know that. Try to understand our geo-pol situation. yes you are right if our leaders were good matured and able to put national intrest at the top. we all are seeing what is their main intrest.They all of them can do anything which is tragic to our nation for their there vasted intrest to hang arround the chair. You just look all leaders. My respect for monarch is because it will never ever let the country down . let us see india they want to make us like bhutan ,main obstacle for them is monarch ,so they are planing all these thing which normal nepalese do not understand. if they can through monarch the army will be same as nepal police .( remember Achut Kheral and Krishmohan). These leader they can do anything which their master dhoti tell them . See mahakali sandhi. did we all protest in 2046 to bring democracy to choose leader to do such things for me ofcourse not. There are series of such things which is anti matribhumi ko intrest. You can say gagan and Narahari can do that think past Bal bhadur was maor democratic than these people when he got post he climbed some ones window. we have these type of people all along. What will be our future if there is nothing to check these people. you might say people will do that .but we have inocent people they are poor without education they are busy for 2 meal for their whole life.They can not react . we need monarch just to check these people ke .

I am sorry if I gave you an impression that I am will be protesting for Girija or Makune or gagan or narhari. I am not protesting for any of those nor I am protesting for Mao. I am protesting for freedom and equality. As I told you before I believe monarchy system it based on discrimination. It was established assuming that the King has supper power and he and she knows everything. But we all know now king is like you and me. He has desire to be rich and drink and party travel like normal people do. ...... Now the question arises if he is normal like you and me then why he/she would get power without any test. How am I tell a bahun and cherti that they are equal to so call lower castes at the same time I am ready accept that king and his family is above all Nepali ? Dear friend I wouldn't get any personal gain if king is there or not. May be I loose some in short term if we oust monarchy system but I would be happy to know in the future any Nepali could lead country and in the future we Nepali would have right to oust them by peaceful mean that is call election. I have been hearing same argument about geo political situation. We had to fight with UK because of it. We had to give our your people to fight in world war II because of geo politics . Rana didn't want to leave power for that too they gave the geo political reason. Panchyat was brought in Name of geo political argument.

The choices that you've presented are fine. But it would have been sensible if you had presented broadbased: Your choices are (that probably does not represent : (1) sacrifice the monarchy and bring the Maoist to the democratic framework, or (2) save the monarchy and go for a prolonged war. .......If you are not talking nonsense then you must add more choices: 3) save the monarchy (constitutional) and bring the Maoists in to mainstream; 4) defeat (politically and militarily) and dismantle the Maoists if they are not willing to join the mainstream(this may be least preferred choice as total dismantle is not possible); 5) take hardline approach with Maoists -Monarchy alignment (least preferred choice). ......If you are not talking the Maoists style of republicanism then I have no comments, but you and yor team's active participation to protest against RNA and campaigning to block the military aid to Nepal is more than sufficient to guess your intent and motive. Your views and action indicates that you consider Maoists threat less dangerous than Monarchy? Your interpretation of ordinary people and mine is totally different. You try to represent those who is in the street of Kathmandu, whereas I am talking about those living in the villages and every corners of Nepal. Just by interacting with handful of so called human rights activists and reading news from internet may not give full picture of sitaution of Nepal and I am sure you are well aware of it. ...... You are again talking nonsense about the priority of ordinary people. Their priority is peace. Obviously, if the "ordinary people" (by my definition - not yours) want republicanism then it is certainly going to come, no one can stop. Even the mainstream political parties are not yet ready to go for republicanism. It is the demand of Maoists party only and I am sure you are aware that their way of republicanism is not the one that you have perceived. ...... May be for you (who does not have to face any consequensces being in the USA) Maoists problem is not a priority, but back home it is a top most priority for all, even those fighting on the street, who have not even dared to initiate any action against Maoists when the maoists are killing or abducting even their own cadres. Maosists have not even allowed them to have freedom of movement in their constituency. ...... Best choice would be choice # 5; any other choices will prolong not only war but destroy the nation.

I didnt say anything about getting paid or the republican being Maoists. Don't come to me with a preconceived notion and most important of all dont try and use your head(s) to tell me what I am thinking and telling. It won't be fair on your part to be given such responsibility. ...... Don't teach me history too. I will make it easy for you. Just answer this question... if you want a 21st century remedy for Nepal, how come you use the events in history (of France) that certainly was not 21st century events? ...... Again, go back and fight your battle in Nepal. If you really are someone who you say you are, ie a well wisher for Nepal and Nepalese, be able to identify and shoot down the real problem. I am talking aboue people like you, who are neither here nor there, just making the system weaker. I think there was a name created for such people... was it mandale? remind me, will ya?

I hope enough protestors gather in NY to show G that there are enough Nepalese who believe in themselves, not an upstart claiming to be Vishnu avatar.

What hell does Vishnu ko Avtaar have to do with his job performance ? We are just waitning to see if he actually will quell this whole Mao mess and put the country back on track of progress and developement. He sacked the PM and took over..what ...umm.. last fall.....its not enough time to see results.. Unlike some of the impatient oppertunists who are hell bent on showing their face in NYC to PUT THEMSELVES IN THE MAP....so that PEOPLE KNOW WHO THEY ARE AND WHEN PAY UP TIME COMES ALONG ....THEY GET THEIR SHARE OF THE LOOT. THEY HAVE NO PLAN OF THEIR OWN...on how they are going to bring the so Called Republic GOVT.... at the same time trying to DISRUPT WHO IS ACTUALLY TRYING TO RESTORE PEACE AND ORDER IN THE COUNTRY.

.....whether Republicanism is a political solution to the Maoists problem or not. I have answered to two skeptic fellow posters who cited the Maoist insurgency in Bihar/UP to cast doubt on whether republic Nepal will be safe from the Maoist.... Had the cause of Republicanism taken up by the parliamentary parties, Maoists wouldn't have grown to become how strong they are today. Their insurgency, if at all, would have remained as insignificant (to threat the state) as Indian Maoist insurgency.

WHen the maonarchy is forced out, how do you stop maoists to come to power? Where is the democratic forces which will lead against maoists and monarchy? Nofw its the battle of gun between maoists and monarchy. The one with better fire power will dominate the other. ...... Untill and unless there is no democratic force ( with public backing) your democratic republic is not possible? But the question is who is ready to risk the life to get rid of monarchy and also maoists?

I have been reading all of you for quite some time now. The more I read each of you the more I get confused as to what the "Main Stream" is who the "Ordinary People" are and who the "INDEPENDENT Source" is. ......The other question is if King G's govt thinks it can conduct local elections within a year why not conducting an election for "Sambidhan Sabha" together with it? Whoever is elected for Sambidhan Sabha will draft the Sambidhan. If people want King the pro-monarchists will win and if they don't then pro-republic candidates will win. Lets give the ordinary people a chance to be heard, let them define who they are let them define what the main stream is and who the independent source is. ....... After everything is said and done none of the 12,000 (whether they were fighting for the king or against) Nepalese deserved to die just to save the King and the agreement of BS 2046/47. As for me I pledge to fly back to Kathmandu just to vote for pro-republic canditates.

Elections are MEANINGLESS unless and until they are firmly embedded in two key principles of democracy: FREE and FAIR. ...... With the Maoists terrorizing much of the countryside and the King's men doing the same to the rest of the country, the possibility of holding a FREE and FAIR elections in Nepal today is next to impossible. I personally would not opt for an election for the sake of one, if it is NOT to guarantee an outcome that is as genuinely reflective as possible of people's desires.

How the hell are you going to uphold democracy when you don't even have law and order ? If the cops and army cannot ..he he what makes you think that just saying democracy wil restore peace and order ? ha ha Unless you have a better idea ...just saying restore democracy is not enough!!!!! How do you reason with people when they are holding a gun pointing at you ? A good example is those Jewish extremists occupying the gaza strip....Isreal had to USE FORCE AGAINST THEIR OWN PEOPLE IN THE HOPE OF RESTORING PEACE(SOMETIMES MARSHALL LAW IS NEEDED TO RESTORE LAW AND ORDER....ONLY THEN YOU CAN RESTORE DEMOCRACY). Free and fair elections ? ha ha If the so called most democratic nation like USA has to resort to Supreme court for elections(remember chads ? and pregnat chads ?)...you think Nepal would have free and fair elections( Its OK TO DREAM POONTE) ?

I do not fully agree with your remark that election can not be hold FREE and FAIR. Even after 2047, none of the elections, whatever level it was, could satisfy everyone. What is most important is that such an election must have broader participation of people, ordinary people understand the procedure (not that voting for SUN means electing SuBaTha types of understanding), monitored and endorsed by neutral bodies and conducted by neutral authorities. That brings me to your first point suggestion, if you can't hold election, then what is the "starting point" to go to your second point suggestion (don't give me Girija approach of reinstatement of Parliament). Nevertheless, the second point option is much more feasible and practical approach as compared to one sided views given by NEPE. All inclusive "Interim Government" (Maoists must also be included if they are really committed for Nepal and Nepali people) made through Nepalese style "Loya Jirga" could be one option to initiate peace and reconciliation as Mr. Brahimi applied in Afghanistan and Iraq. Honesty, Integrity and nationalistic views are paramount prerequisite for that. If you sideline any key players, including Monarchy, then lasting solution may not be achieved. I want to remind again that ultimately role of Zahir Shaha (Afghanistan) and Noroddam Sihanuk (Cambodia) were crucial factor to break the ice in those countries. We do not want present monarchy to be thrown out and make the country Afghanistan and Cambodia for longer period then recall them to clean the mess. There are internal factors coupled with external factors for the Maoists to grow day by day. The Maoist insurgency in India is not a spill over effect of Nepali Maoist but it is other way round. Without moral, political, financial, material and sanctuary support from Indian Maoists groups (PWG, MCM etc), Nepalese Maoists would not have reached up to this level. Remember, when the Maoist started their insurgency in Nepal, (and then 7-8 years afterward), democratically elected governments were in power. Almost all major political parties ran the country (NC, NCD, UML, RPP, NSP etc) when this war/terrorism/insurgency was ongoing. The Maoists are changing their strategy to achieve their ultimate goal in accordance with political situation of Nepal. They are trying to gain the popular support of mass accordingly. When monarchy was strong, they said they had a working relation with monarchy. Now, when the monarchy is weak then they are throwing their "fishing rod" towards political parties. They played such games in the past with all political parties and now they are making parties and educated lots like you all to advocate on their demands. If you believe that the Maoist are sincere to back off from their communist ideology then that will be your very wrong prediction. They are just buying the time and slowly leap frogging. They have strong propaganda making apparatus even to influence western world. By saying all this, I am not telling that they should be ignored; they have to be dealt politically, militarily, socially, diplomatically (through India as they are getting support from that country in one or other) and informationally to bring them to mainstream.

First protest protest protest, then wave some flags, then protest more, and presto! There will be fair and A little nice democracy, then mao will come to their warm welcoming folds, there will a nice little republican state nesteled in tall himalayas and our poonte, nepe, and Anti_monarqi AND THEIR MINDLESS FOLLOWERS will live happily ever after. See it is that easy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is only us who don't get it. JUST A TEENIE QUESTION THOUGH - HOW EXACTLY WILL YOU DO IT? COME AGAIN???

We have at least one meeting point -- I also do not think re-instatement of the parliament that was dismantled 4 years ago would be helpful to our future cause. And yes, I would attest for an ALL PARTY INTERIM GOVT too, Maoists included. But before anything can happen, I still believe restoring the most basic rights of the people would only help to legitimize whatever shape or form the new interim government might come into existence. Freedoms of the press (in particular), expression, speech, etc., must be respected FULLY and WHOLE-HEARTEDLY. Here is where my personal fight against tyranny of the monarchy is at. Of course, after that I would struggle for the curtailment of special royal privileges and treatments as well. In the past the invitation to join the government have been rebuffed by the parties, and I must say rightly so. Any attempts to form an ALL PARTY government must be genuine and sincere, must avoid legitimization of the King's new arrangements, and, most importantly, it MUST be presented with a concrete plan to tackle Maoist problem non-militarily, followed by concrete plans to hold AS FREE and AS FAIR elections as possible once peace is restored. My personal stance vis-a-vis republicanism is that the issue should be left for the people to decide. However, one thing I am certain of is that we now do have a serious need to question the monarchy, and freely talk about it. Much to my comfort, I see that happening more and more. Let the people FREELY and OPENLY debate the relevance of monarchy in Nepal, and then they can choose to either keep it under a TRUEST form of constitutional monarchy, or get rid of it -- ABSOLUTE MONARCHY should be completely out of the question. Personally, however, since I see no prospects of Nepali monarchy being willing to desist from absolutism, I would go for a republic. If things change for the better in the near future, so much the better. The important thign is, I feel the time has come for the Nepali society to realize that we can live without the King -- we need to have self confidence -- INDIVIDUALLY AND COLLECTIVELY. We need not rely on "authority" to make decisions for us, i.e., empower ourselves. After that, if people desire to keep the monarchy as a SYMBOLIC geture of respect to our tradition, I can live with with. Otherwise, let us move forward without the King too.

All said and done, we need to bring the monarchy into constitution or abolish and aslo simulataneously deal with it. By their nature by now, you must have realised they both maoists and monarch will not give up. They will try to come into power. On the other hand, we have weakest democratic force, plagued with corrupt and inept leaders, who are good for nothing. What are you going to do about that? One thing at a time, I strongly beleive we need to make ourself strong first instead of taking on the power houses. Thats wher I differ on you. You seems to be too therotical and fail to provide implementation. I have seen some of the articles you posted. Some of the articles encourages emabargo on Nepal for which I am totally against. We need to be careful so that our actions do not inflict more pain on commoners. Instead of protesting ranting the theories, we could approach in a differnt way. Together we are strong, divided we are weak . Collectively the intelectuals living abroad could have a conversation with the king, and parties and bring them in the same boat. Analyze what really king tends to do. Make it transparent and enforce king for his words. I think maos are real enemey of nation at this time and we should solve this problem first. FOrce and diplomacy both should be used. Force so that they do not think the govt has given up, diplomacy for the peace deal. This musta be known by public.

As for the upcoming rally in NY, different individuals may join it with different agendas. That is all fine by me as long as I know in my heart that I will be there to raise a voice against REPRESSION, not even against the King per se, but against a feudalistic system of repression that he represents.

As long as the Maoists are armed, do not trust them. This is my mantra. And I believe this should be the mantra of those who have to deal with the Maoists. So the first and foremost thing for us to do is to disarm the Maoists. Anything that ignores or put aside this part is not really a solution to Nepal's problem. As a matter of fact, public has never shown any enthusiasm to political agenda that ignores the issue of laying arms of the Maoists ("bringing peace"). Political parties had been calling upon the public for supporting their hundreds of Nirnayak aandolan for "restoring democracy" for past three years and "restoring civil liberty" too since Feb 1 till recently, only to get cold shoulder from the public. (So here I disagree with Anil-ji's prioritization ) Only when the political parties started to talk about 'Constitutional Assembly' and 'Democratic republic', public showed a great enthusiasm by attending the political parties rally by unprecedented number (15,000-30,000). See the picture below from the mass meeting of seven political parties on May 27, 2005. This enthusiasm is open for interpretation. But one can hardly deny that it was also for a REALISTIC political way out (disarmament) for the Maoists. *** *** *** Forget about disarming the Maoists militarily. Forget about disarming the Maoists by the King or any coalition with the King. The existence of the Kingship is itself is what gives the Maoists their raison d'etre and legitimacy (of a freedom-fighter) and thus empowerment. Our pro-king posters are in denial of this fact. *** *** *** There is no GUARANTEE that the Maoists will lay their arm until their ultimate goal of 'people's republic' is achieved. So we can only think in terms of LIKELYHOOD. Now, the question is this- Which is more likely to make the Maoists agree to lay their arms for, Monarchical democracy or republic democracy ? This is the question of the day. And our pro-king posters are giving absolutely wrong answer. *** *** *** Acceptance to the Maoists in any case and reason should be made contingent upon their agreement to lay the arms and give up the goal of 'people's republic'. I am surprised to see that many pro-king posters are confused on this. I am against political parties initiative to talk to the Maoists at this point. The Maoists should be kept untouchable until they give up communist ideology. *** *** *** At this time, only power enjoying popular faith is "Nagarik Samaj". Ironically it is not a political institution per se. Politcal parties's old mandate has eroded. Nagarik Samaj (that includes political leaders and workers with agenda for change) has three wars at three separate fronts to fight simultaneously- with Maoists against communism and violence, with King against his political ambition and with the old leadership of the parties against their conservativeness and incompetence. Each war complements the other. So your strength is not diluted, it is rather further strenghtened. You get more strength to fight a brutal ideological war with the Maoists if you are fighting at the same time with the King to get rid of him or his ambition, and vice versa. You get more strength to fight the King if you are fighting without waiting with the inept and corrupt political leaders. In fact, if you can not say NO to Girija et al, there is no point to say NO to the King. You can make a theoretical point, but that does not matter to most of the people whose help you need to fight the King. *** *** *** Eventually it will turn out that we wasted our years by hoping and trying the approach of ARBITRARY compromise between the King, the conservative leaders and the Maoist. We should have talked about pure democracy and given them 'come to it or die' option to all political protagonists. Because that's what is going to happen eventually.